Would you go back from a m10 to a m9?

[Olaf_ZG]

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Today I went for a long walk in the forrest: took the SL with P70-200/f4 and  the mm with old cron 50.

After some hours, the SL was getting heavy, and the mm still light. Loved the combination of evf and zoom. Getting it right in camera is key for me and an evf helps a lot here. The mm is different, not really able to look on the screen, one is wondering what one has got. Magic.

Love to use the SL, though heavy. Love the mm. The m10, though great, doesn’t have the magic of the mm, nor the handiness of a SL. Using a m10 along a SL would not make sense to me: similar output, but the SL would win for me.

However, if the m9 has the same magic as the mm, it would be complimentary. Not sure if I make sense here…
 

 

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18 hours ago, Jeff S said:

MM, of course.  MM2 would be the M246.  There is nothing like the M10 Monochrom, however, if you ever get a chance to use it; far better sensor than in the M10, and much better build quality and VF than the MM (I have both). 

Jeff

Correct Typo.

[Jeff S]

22 hours ago, Olaf_ZG said:

Today I went for a long walk in the forrest: took the SL with P70-200/f4 and  the mm with old cron 50.

After some hours, the SL was getting heavy, and the mm still light. Loved the combination of evf and zoom. Getting it right in camera is key for me and an evf helps a lot here. The mm is different, not really able to look on the screen, one is wondering what one has got. Magic.

Love to use the SL, though heavy. Love the mm. The m10, though great, doesn’t have the magic of the mm, nor the handiness of a SL. Using a m10 along a SL would not make sense to me: similar output, but the SL would win for me.

However, if the m9 has the same magic as the mm, it would be complimentary. Not sure if I make sense here…
 

 

As I wrote in post #18, users have different preferences. Carrying an SL (or any color-based camera) with any Monochrom would ruin the experience of the latter; not complementary at all. For me, a Monochrom promotes a different mindset, and workflow, that can’t be replicated with a traditional digital camera, including the M9.  YMMV.

Jeff

[Olaf_ZG]

5 hours ago, Jeff S said:

As I wrote in post #18, users have different preferences. Carrying an SL (or any color-based camera) with any Monochrom would ruin the experience of the latter; not complementary at all. For me, a Monochrom promotes a different mindset, and workflow, that can’t be replicated with a traditional digital camera, including the M9.  YMMV.

Jeff

Each their own I guess, I don’t have problem switching colour or bw, afterall, I see in color and my mind translates this into tones. Unconsciously probably.

now, to switch from SL to M or vice versa, is not sth I am used to. This will need some practice.

 

[Jeff S]

1 minute ago, Olaf_ZG said:

 I see in color and my mind translates this into tones. Unconsciously probably.

 

 

Then you’re defying optics, as color saturation and hue have ZERO effect on black and white tonality; only brightness/luminance matters.  That’s why a b&w mindset is key for me; colors are a distraction that need to be ignored, not translated.

Jeff

[Olaf_ZG]

2 minutes ago, Jeff S said:

Then you’re defying optics, as color saturation and hue have ZERO effect on black and white tonality; only brightness/luminance matters.  That’s why a b&w mindset is key for me; colors are a distraction that need to be ignored, not translated.

Jeff

You are right, I expressed myself wrongly: though I see color, my mind is translating light and shadow. It is not translating blue in a certain grey tone. I see color, I see contrast. Based on the latter i somehow have a feeling for bw.

[Jeff S]

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33 minutes ago, Olaf_ZG said:

You are right, I expressed myself wrongly: though I see color, my mind is translating light and shadow. It is not translating blue in a certain grey tone. I see color, I see contrast. Based on the latter i somehow have a feeling for bw.

And if you’re carrying your SL (for color pics) with your MM, and shooting them together, then you also need to be paying attention to color hue and saturation.  I’d rather not be distracted looking for potential color pics when I’m shooting with my Monochroms.

 But I also don’t shoot with my M10-R and my SL2 together; different uses and workflow for me. Each to his/her own.  
 

Jeff

Edited October 17, 2022 by Jeff S