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Canon G9 vs D-lux3

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I'm thinking about a new compact camera and, after a lot of research, there are two candidates: Leica D-lux3 and the new Canon G9. I know they have two main differences: the sensor ratio (16:9 vs 4:3) and the wide part of the lens (28mm vs 35mm). But my question is about IQ in real use, are there anybody with both cameras to compare?

 

 

 

 

 

PS: my english is not very good, sorry.

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I'm thinking about a new compact camera and, after a lot of research, there are two candidates: Leica D-lux3 and the new Canon G9. I know they have two main differences: the sensor ratio (16:9 vs 4:3) and the wide part of the lens (28mm vs 35mm). But my question is about IQ in real use, are there anybody with both cameras to compare?

 

 

 

 

 

PS: my english is not very good, sorry.

 

The G9 has the same lousy optical finder (how the he__ can you make a finder that's cloudy and soft from the factory) as the G7. If you are going to put an optical finder on something, then at least use glass in the lenses or something.

 

Big turn off.

 

However, sadly, I suspect the Canon (da__ their furry Bumble hides) probably takes really good pix once you get past the Canon overall feel of extreme crappiness.

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Last year I had a G7 for a few weeks. It took very nice pictures, but I found myself always looking at the LCD (as you would do with the Leica also) and that really turned me off.

 

I sent it back and got a used LC-1, which I have since "upgraded" to a D2. These cameras take excellent pictures, are no more difficult to carry, etc. than the supposed "pocket" cameras, and the simple act of taking pictures is so much better.

 

Yes there is the sensor issue to deal with, but Leica and Panasonic seem to be addressing this.

 

Get one of these cameras and you will never regret it.

 

-ddog

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Yesterday I bought a G9, go to a local store, take in my hand and love de design and retro look. Today I've post the first test in my blog, at the moment I'm very happy with the camera and I am thinking in buy a voigtlander 28mm viewfinder to improve the viewfinder for street photography. A guy in dpreview try this pack and surprisely say the point of view of the voigt 28mm is very close to the 35mm setting on the canon lens.

I'll post a new article each day for 3-4 days.

 

The first is here: Micropixel: Canon G9: primeras impresiones (Manejo, Visor y archivos RAW)

 

The posts are in spanish, my english is not enough good. But you could see the pictures and the 100% crops.

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Salvador,

 

No comprendo, caramba. Thank for posting this, I see that the noise is "acceptable"

till 800 asa. Could you make a picture with something flat with white, grey and black tones

 

muchos gracias

 

regards Michel

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A newspaper for example?? what ISO do you like?

 

Salvatore,

 

I thought to something glossy that would render that noise. Paper might be ok please shoot at100, 400, 800 and 1600 would be fine. Thank you.

I have a digilux 2 (3 years old) which beats many PS of today at 100asa.

I will switch to canon and I thought that g9 would be a good alternative.

I am however concerned by the pixel nbr which to me make no sence to be so high even

with a digit 3 (I hate this kind of stupid marketing)

 

Salut

 

Michel

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I don't anything about the G9, except that a friend who tried it out says that its a bit of a "brick" in being boxey and that there is unacceptable distortion at the 35mm end of the lens, which he finds unforgivable.

 

As for the D-Lux 3, it's really the Panasonic LX2, with slightly different firmware for JPGs; if you shoot RAW it's the same camera. It's a good camera but you may wish to consider the new Ricoh GX100, which is substantially better for the following main reasons:

 

• The "stepped" zoom facility, which allows you to step through from 24 to 28, 35, 50 and 75mm EFOV in discrete steps, makes it feel that it's the equivalent of having a camera with five prime lenses. You're then shooting at the same focal lengths that you get to know if you don't already. It's a brilliant idea and it's surprising that, in all these years of production of zoom lenses, no other manufacturer has thought of this.

 

• The GX100 file quality is better: the D-Lux is virtually unusable at ISO 1600, because even in RAW, there is some in-camera smoothing which results in "smearing"; and at ISO 800 the files from the D-Lux 3 is a hit or miss affair.

 

• The removable electonic viewfinder is quite good — even though some people prefer an optical viewfinder — and is much better than other EVF with which I'm familiar, those of the V-Lux 1 and Digilux 3. Moreover it can be tilted up so that you can look down into it when taking low-angle shots. It displays all the shooting information that is available on the LCD and of course has 100% coverage of the frame. In my view this is also a brilliant solution. The D-Lux 3 has no viewfinder; nor does it have a hotshoe where an external optical viewfinder can be mounted.

 

• The GX100 has better-designed controls than the D-Lux 3, although the latter's are fairly good.

 

I have both the GX100 and the D-Lux 3 right now and will probably sell the latter. I have felt that the Ricoh GR-D and GX100 are cameras that Leica could or, rathert, should, have designed if it were an innovative company and had the R&D funds. On my flickr site, whose url is below my signature you can see pictures with both cameras: the GX100 pictures are on pages 1 and 2; the D-Lux 3 pictures are on pages 8 and 9.

 

Sorry I'm not into shooting newspapers, but Sean Reid has excellent thorough reviews of both these cameras on his (pay) site that may interest you.

 

—Mitch/Bangkok

Flickr: Photos from Mitch Alland

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Mitch, how do you feel about the size of the GX100 compared with the DLux3? I have the latter and while it's not the smallest P&S around, it's certainly pocketable.
To me the difference is not significant and they're poth pocketable: the GX100 is a little longer, while the D-Lux 3 is a bit wider as the collapsed lens sticks out a bit more. But the GX100 has a much better grip.

 

—MItch/Bangkok

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10268776@N00/

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To me the difference is not significant and they're poth pocketable: the GX100 is a little longer, while the D-Lux 3 is a bit wider as the collapsed lens sticks out a bit more. But the GX100 has a much better grip.

 

—MItch/Bangkok

Flickr: Photos from Mitch Alland

 

A shot of the two side by side would be helpful if not too much trouble.

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A shot of the two side by side would be helpful if not too much trouble.
I don't do any testing of the same scene with two cameras, but on my flickr site you can see GX100 pictures on pages 1-2 and D-Lux 3 shots on pages 9-10:

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10268776@N00/

 

Also the following pictures in Huahin (Thailand) were all taken with the GX100:

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10268776@N00/sets/72157602093920518/show/

 

—Mitch/Bangkok

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10268776@N00/sets/72157602093920518/show/

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Weltraumpräsident

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Since Friday I have both - d-lux3 and new the G9.

Sure I will compare - but not yet as I will go on business trip tomorrow.

If someone will be still interested I will post some stuff next weekend

cheers Michael

 

so.... nobody...good

I can stay lazy *ggg*

Maybe it is better this way because after one week shooting with the G9 my non scientific impression without direct comparing is, that you would throw the d-lux 3 or the gx100 into the garbage when looking at the G9 pictures *ggg*

cheers Michael

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