Price of 35mm Summilix asph pre FLE?

[lucy63]

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Hi. What would be a fair price to pay for the 35 asph pre FLE? 

How  would this lens perform on the M11? 

Thanks. 

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[lucy63]

12 hours ago, Artin said:

2500-4000 us  depending on condition and date and material ... 15,000 and up for steel rim   10,000 and up for early V2 with focus lock . it is probably the most erratic of them all on the market. and it is fantastic on the M11 if you like the old school glow. not as good as asph or FLE wide open for sharpness and contrast, super for BW 

Thanks so much! That's a lot of variables, I guess then £3000 could be about OK for a pristine model. 

[chasdfg]

I would say about 2500 to 3250gbp for a black copy in good shape (depends if it is coded, with box, papers, etc.). 

Silver and titanium ones go for about 1.5x the black ones (maybe even more). They're brass and are heavier than the black ones.

As for performance, I've always preferred the rendering of it over the FLE (softer bokeh), and with a good amount of sharpness. However, my copy had very observable focus shift between f2 to 5.6 (it was sharp wide open) and I sold it as a result. The black copies all have focus shift...apparently the brass bodied silver ones don't or have less of it but I have never held and used a silver one to test for it.

Artin was describing the pre-asph 35mm summilux. Too many "pre" lenses nowadays. 

[evikne]

23 hours ago, Artin said:

2500-4000 us  depending on condition and date and material ... 15,000 and up for steel rim   10,000 and up for early V2 with focus lock . it is probably the most erratic of them all on the market. and it is fantastic on the M11 if you like the old school glow. not as good as asph or FLE wide open for sharpness and contrast, super for BW images 

It seems like what you are describing is the pre-ASPH, but the OP is asking for the pre-FLE.

[pgk]

This is the 35mm lens that I use and find to be a really excellent all round 35mm lens. The going rate should be a bit below the FLE version but having looked at the dealers in the UK the lens actually seems to be very thin on the ground. The only one I can spot seems to be only slightly less than similar FLE copies from the same dealer! FLE versions seem to be around the £3k mark used. IMO the pre-FLE should be 20-25% less but  it doesn't seem to be working like that at the moment.

[lucy63]

On 9/28/2022 at 5:50 PM, chasdfg said:

I would say about 2500 to 3250gbp for a black copy in good shape (depends if it is coded, with box, papers, etc.). 

Silver and titanium ones go for about 1.5x the black ones (maybe even more). They're brass and are heavier than the black ones.

As for performance, I've always preferred the rendering of it over the FLE (softer bokeh), and with a good amount of sharpness. However, my copy had very observable focus shift between f2 to 5.6 (it was sharp wide open) and I sold it as a result. The black copies all have focus shift...apparently the brass bodied silver ones don't or have less of it but I have never held and used a silver one to test for it.

Artin was describing the pre-asph 35mm summilux. Too many "pre" lenses nowadays. 

It eas one of my earliest M lenses for the M8 and I'm sure the shift showed up beyond f3, I can't be sure but f2 would be a deal breaker. Not sure if I want to take the risk even for a fair price. Thanks for your reply.