mkendzierski Posted September 17, 2007 Share #1 Posted September 17, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm really embarrassed by this as it seems that my sensor is full of dust particles & they're screwing up my shots. I don't know how it got so messy as I only have one lens and I originally thought it was my U/V filter or the actual lens that needed cleaning. I know think it's my sensor & I was wondering what to do. I'm going to Vancouver on Thursday & am going to bring along my M8 & was just about to purchase a Voit. 21mm lens to take along but this sensor would ruin my pictures. Anyone have any suggestions....I saw Guy's post on the other tools available & was wondering what people do...how I can keep my sensor clean in the future and any other great advice. Here is a picture that I shot yesterday from the Red Hook Marine terminal in Brooklyn, NY http://www.theminorlift.com/clean/L1001768.jpg You can see the dust....it's awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 17, 2007 Share #2 Posted September 17, 2007 Geez Mike your a dirty mess here.LOL You have it all going on dust and grease and honestly i like to call this the big hole theory . Big hole anything can go in. really not a ton you can do besides the obvious stuff like changing lenses in sand storm or windy conditions. Keeping the lens on all the time would help without changing but not really that practical when you have more than one lens. I would go back to my thread and get a plan of attack and get the swaps and fluid. Honestly this is just normal maintenance stuff with digital and you need to be a janitor also. It really is not hard and we can walk you through it. But right now you have grease and that fluid will be the only choice here . BTW the grease is more in the circles and the irregular is the dust. You have both. The grease will eventually subside in time too, new camera will tend to do this for a period than that excess will go away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted September 17, 2007 Share #3 Posted September 17, 2007 1. Try one of the Visible Dust brushes, like the Arctic Butterfly. 2. If there is still dust, use a wet agent like Eclipse 2 along with one of the proper sizes of wand/pad combinations. 3. If you don't have these things and can't get them in time, go to a camera store and try to find a SensorKlear tool made by LensPen. They are easy to use, can be taken on a plane and work extremely well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkendzierski Posted September 17, 2007 Author Share #4 Posted September 17, 2007 I'm pretty much a mess. I'm going to B&H & get everything on the list....and the 21mm Voigtlander for my trip to Vancouver. Thanks for the great advice....I really don't know how this happened though. I keep the lens on all of the time & I think I've only removed it a couple of times. Hopefully I can post another photo w/ the results of a clean camera. It's somewhat of a brand new M8 but maybe something got inside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted September 17, 2007 Share #5 Posted September 17, 2007 Before you spend a lot of money buy a bulb blower - the type you hold in your hand and squeeze to expel the air out of it. Then use this to clean the sensor. Although I have an Arctic Butterfly I've found that a simple blower has been all that's needed so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwalker649 Posted September 17, 2007 Share #6 Posted September 17, 2007 Guy, That Light Loupe you recommended on the thread you're refering to is great. Its kind of expensive but worth every penny as far as I'm concerned. The time you save pulling the card and reshooting makes it worth every cent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 17, 2007 Share #7 Posted September 17, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes it does have a price tag but i wonder if we looked around at places like Edmund Scientific or something like that we maybe able to find something maybe with less of a price tag on it. Head gear maybe kind of a good device too. You know the watch repair guys wear head gear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted September 18, 2007 Share #8 Posted September 18, 2007 Before you spend a lot of money buy a bulb blower - the type you hold in your hand and squeeze to expel the air out of it. Then use this to clean the sensor. Although I have an Arctic Butterfly I've found that a simple blower has been all that's needed so far. I think he has some grease problems which a blower won't address. Also, I've always felt blowers don't necessarily remove the dust--rather just move it around in the sensor chamber. Eventually, it's going to find its way back onto the sensor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grduprey Posted September 18, 2007 Share #9 Posted September 18, 2007 I bought the SensorKlear Pro kit for $64. It comes with the Enspen, a blower, and cleaning cloth for the body and a case to keep it all in with 3 refill tips for the pen. Have not used it yet as my M8 sensor has only some very small dust specs that you have to magnify the disply to see. But other users have used the Lenspen with excellent results. Gene Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted September 18, 2007 Share #10 Posted September 18, 2007 I agree a bulb blower is what you should try first. I disagree that they just blow dust around, instead they create a current of air to first mobilise the dust and then replace the air carrying it with clean air and I expect the worst of your dust will come off this way. You may have grease or sticky dust (for example, pollen) on the sensor as well which requires wet cleaning with sensor swabs and a solvent or equivalent. There's a ton of cleaning solutions out there, I've never needed to go beyond pac-pads, sensor-swabs and Eclipse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkendzierski Posted September 18, 2007 Author Share #11 Posted September 18, 2007 Would it make sense to use the swabs & solvent to address the grease on the sensor & then use the articbrush to handle the dust? I've got them both...will be doing it this afternoon! Thanks again everyone...can't wait. I also picked up a 15mm Voigtlander lens too...can't wait to try it out in Vancouver! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted September 18, 2007 Share #12 Posted September 18, 2007 No, get rid of the dust first using the blower, then wet clean the sensor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 18, 2007 Share #13 Posted September 18, 2007 Mike blow the dust first or else your just going to move it somewhere else, than do as Mark said run the wet swabs after. let us know how you did and if you need help . Scream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted September 18, 2007 Share #14 Posted September 18, 2007 Whatever you do, try not to contaminate your brush by having it contact any grease on your sensor. You definitely want to remove the grease before using it or it will be useless in the future. A swab pass in each direction with Eclipse 2 (couple of drops) would not be a bad first step and may be all you need to do. By now, you have probably noticed that when you ask any question on a web forum, you will get a variety of opinions. Just sort it all out and do what makes the most logical sense to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted September 18, 2007 Share #15 Posted September 18, 2007 You must blow loose dust off first, otherwise you risk grinding it into the sensor surface and scratching it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newyorkone Posted September 18, 2007 Share #16 Posted September 18, 2007 I purchased a medium sized "rocket" blower for dry sensor cleaning but have yet to tackle cleaning the sensor yet. I've heard someone mention before that they put a pec pad on the blower end to prevent dust from being deposited by the blower. Good idea or overkill? Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent10D Posted September 18, 2007 Share #17 Posted September 18, 2007 I just recently bought a 500 ml bottle of laboratory grade (better than 99%) isopropanol at my friendly local pharmacist for the equivalnt of US$3.50. That and the appropriate swabs should do nicely. I'm sure Eclipse is good, but there's only one importer here in Japan who never seems to have any, and when he does it'll set you back the equivalent of US$15.00 for a truly teeny bottle. Of course the blower gets used first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted September 18, 2007 Share #18 Posted September 18, 2007 I've heard someone mention before that they put a pec pad on the blower end to prevent dust from being deposited by the blower. Good idea or overkill? Thanks! Not a helpful suggestion, it blocks 90%+ of the air. I've mentioned before a few times that if you are worried about wet cleaning, try practicing by sprinkling paprika on a blank CD and "cleaning" it; you can check for residues left from your solvent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenjh Posted September 19, 2007 Share #19 Posted September 19, 2007 I just went through the same thing. My spots were of course all over the blue sky. I did not notice these until later when the problem kept recurring and I went back to look at my images. I bought the M8 and the 50mm Sum f/2 new at the same time. I just downloaded some images from a street fair and they looked good and moved on. A few weeks later I went out and shot the Golden Gate Bridge and their the spots were, quite obvious. I cleaned the lens, etc. Went out and shot some skateboarder and they were still there. So, I went back to the very first pictures I took with the out of box M8 and out of box 50mm and looked at them at 1:1 in lightroom and there the spots were. The only conclusion is it came with a dirty sensor from the factor. I first tried air blowing with hand blower and took test shots. Spots were still there. I took an old Schneider-Kreuznach Componar 1:4:5/75 slide projector lens that I used for a loupe back when I was poor. I held the camera up to the sunlight at angle with the loop and saw what looked like tiny specs of glitter shining in the sunlight. Bought some Eclipse and swabs. I had to do two treatments as after the first pass with the Eclipse I took test pictures and there were still some spots, but not as many. The second treatment did the trick 100%. What is the latest you guys on Eclipse or Eclipse 2? Am I supposed to be using Eclipse 2. Leonardo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 19, 2007 Share #20 Posted September 19, 2007 Suggested by Eclipse they say Eclipse 2 although i have used the orginal also. On my old thread there are some links to this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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