Einst_Stein Posted September 14, 2022 Share #1 Posted September 14, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Carrying film in international travel has been talked a lot. But what about shipping film? Especially 120 that has not metal cassette protection? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 Hi Einst_Stein, Take a look here X-ray safe international shipping. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Guest Posted September 14, 2022 Share #2 Posted September 14, 2022 IMO I would think shipments would be subjected to higher powered X-rays and more scrutiny than taking through normal security. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted September 15, 2022 Author Share #3 Posted September 15, 2022 May be I should ask differently Is it safe to buy films from oversea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 15, 2022 Share #4 Posted September 15, 2022 What do you mean “safe”? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted September 15, 2022 Share #5 Posted September 15, 2022 5 hours ago, Einst_Stein said: May be I should ask differently Is it safe to buy films from oversea? I order regularly here with no problem and in addition it's cheaper for Kodak Portra ! https://www.fotoimpex.com/films/ Best Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted September 15, 2022 Author Share #6 Posted September 15, 2022 11 hours ago, Doc Henry said: I order regularly here with no problem and in addition it's cheaper for Kodak Portra ! https://www.fotoimpex.com/films/ Best Henry Thanks, I have no problem with mail order within US, such as shipping from New York (B&H ) to California. I saw your order are shipping within Europe (Germany to France?). Still wondering what if shipping between US and Europe or Asia. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted September 15, 2022 Author Share #7 Posted September 15, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 17 hours ago, OThomas said: What do you mean “safe”? x ray exposure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 15, 2022 Share #8 Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) On 9/14/2022 at 12:38 PM, OThomas said: IMO I would think shipments would be subjected to higher powered X-rays and more scrutiny than taking through normal security. @Einst_Stein I thought this answered that issue. 🤔 Edited September 15, 2022 by OThomas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtai Posted September 15, 2022 Share #9 Posted September 15, 2022 Next time I travel overseas I just need to make sure to research where I can buy film retail when I land. I only worry about the CRT scanners when flying out of the US. The countries I travelled out of in Asia just prior to the pandemic didn’t have the new scanners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aryel Posted September 16, 2022 Share #10 Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) I travelled to France last November. What I did is buy the film online (fotoimpex) and get it delivered there before. At the end of the trip, I shipped the film to a lab in Spain (Malvarrosa)for development. This included some delta 3200. Everything was 100% fine… I also get film delivered to Singapore without any issue so far. Including delta3200 from B&H . Hope this helps! Edited September 16, 2022 by Aryel 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted September 16, 2022 Share #11 Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) A little off topic but for your info I often go on humanitarian medical missions and I have three Domke bags to put all my rolls of film inside these bags , films travel with me in the cabin and the security officers at the X Ray scanner or CT Scanner are informed that they are films because I show them and that's how I don't have any problem for years with my undeveloped films (because I develop when I get home). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry Film photographer Edited September 16, 2022 by Doc Henry 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry Film photographer ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/336559-x-ray-safe-international-shipping/?do=findComment&comment=4510219'>More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted September 17, 2022 Author Share #12 Posted September 17, 2022 I have used metal box. I got more troubles. I had to open it and got badly treated. Anything protection blocks X-ray would be equally bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted September 17, 2022 Share #13 Posted September 17, 2022 10 hours ago, Einst_Stein said: I have used metal box. I got more troubles. I had to open it and got badly treated. Anything protection blocks X-ray would be equally bad. Hi Einst , I have been going on humanitarian missions for years as practician in all the countries of Asia and Africa I have never had any problems 😀 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted September 17, 2022 Author Share #14 Posted September 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Doc Henry said: Hi Einst , I have been going on humanitarian missions for years as practician in all the countries of Asia and Africa I have never had any problems 😀 I can understand that. The troubles are more likely on US side. Also, my trips were not as respectable as yours. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitroplait Posted September 18, 2022 Share #15 Posted September 18, 2022 On 9/16/2022 at 9:03 AM, Doc Henry said: A little off topic but for your info I often go on humanitarian medical missions and I have three Domke bags to put all my rolls of film inside these bags , films travel with me in the cabin and the security officers at the X Ray scanner or CT Scanner are informed that they are films because I show them and that's how I don't have any problem for years with my undeveloped films (because I develop when I get home). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry Film photographer Henry, just to make sure I understand. These are "lead" bags and they go through the CT scanner, and you don't have fogging issues? I personally don't have problems with regular X-rays. I regularly count 6+ passes of my hand luggage without fogging of ISO 400 film (I don't use protective wrapping), but I am not sure my film ever went trough a CT scanner. A member of the largeformatforum demonstrated fogging of large format film after a single pass through a CT scanner (without protective wrapping). The rumour used to say that lead bags would just result in the operator increasing the radiation and thereby nullify the protective effect of the bag, but I have now heard reports that X-ray scanner operators don't/can't change the radiation but rather filtration, thus that would support use of these bags. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted September 20, 2022 Share #16 Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) On 9/18/2022 at 6:15 PM, nitroplait said: Henry, just to make sure I understand. These are "lead" bags and they go through the CT scanner, and you don't have fogging issues? I personally don't have problems with regular X-rays. I regularly count 6+ passes of my hand luggage without fogging of ISO 400 film (I don't use protective wrapping), but I am not sure my film ever went trough a CT scanner. A member of the largeformatforum demonstrated fogging of large format film after a single pass through a CT scanner (without protective wrapping). The rumour used to say that lead bags would just result in the operator increasing the radiation and thereby nullify the protective effect of the bag, but I have now heard reports that X-ray scanner operators don't/can't change the radiation but rather filtration, thus that would support use of these bags. Hi Nitro , my experience is mostly for Asia as I said in my previous post I have no problem when I put on my "undeveloped" films or "new" films when I go into the cabin when I show them to the security guards before going through the gate 😀 https://thedarkroom.com/bringing-film-airport-security-x-rays-film/ I have also find this link ( note that it does not use the anti X Ray Domke bag for the test) https://petapixel.com/2021/07/06/what-happens-if-your-film-goes-through-the-tsas-ct-scanners/ Best Henry Edited September 20, 2022 by Doc Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitroplait Posted September 20, 2022 Share #17 Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Doc Henry said: Hi Nitro , my experience is mostly for Asia as I said in my previous post I have no problem when I put on my "undeveloped" films or "new" films when I go into the cabin when I show them to the security guards before going through the gate 😀 https://thedarkroom.com/bringing-film-airport-security-x-rays-film/ I have also find this link ( note that it does not use the anti X Ray Domke bag for the test) https://petapixel.com/2021/07/06/what-happens-if-your-film-goes-through-the-tsas-ct-scanners/ Best Henry Thanks Henry. My very recent experiment with 400 iso film (HP5+) going through Copenhagen(DK), Charles de Gaulle(FR), Haneda(JP), Komatsu(JP) and Narita(JP), twice without protection, showed no effect regardless of whether it was in the hand luggage or in the checked luggage. I have no knowledge of whether any passes went through CT scanners or not, but I was surprised that even the film in the checked luggage showed no effect of the scans in these modern airports. best Niels Edited September 20, 2022 by nitroplait 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitroplait Posted September 28, 2022 Share #18 Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) Bought one of those Domke bags (Size M). Holds 15 35mm rolls without plastic canisters, maybe 12-13 with and even less with the cardbord box. Made in USA, a refreshing change! If you buy from EU, be aware that Amazon.de is quite a bit cheaper than Fotoimpex at the time of writing this post. Well made and heavy bag. Weights around 270gr. I hope it will give me a little peace of mind during my travels with film. Edited September 28, 2022 by nitroplait 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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