mwalker649 Posted September 16, 2007 Share #1 Posted September 16, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have some older wooden blue print flat files in my WV office that I would like to bring to my house to store my prints. However when watching Michael Reichmanns LL video describing his new gallerey, he mentioned that steel flat files are needed do to de-gassing of wooden files. I googled this and could find nothing. Can anyone elaborate on this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Printmaker Posted September 18, 2007 Share #2 Posted September 18, 2007 Degassing only takes place with certain papers. The Epson premium line of papers suffer from this problem. If you interleave your prints with a buffered paper, the outgassing is not much of a problem. While I have not watched Michael's video, I do run quite a bit of Epson Premium Gloss and Luster. I save the interleaf sheets that come with the Cranes Museo (our house sheet for watercolor repro) to insert between the Epson papers. And, yes, our papers, printed and unprinted, are stored in wooden drawers. There are so many wonderful new papers out and comming out that we are mostly running the Epson Premium line as our commercial and poster paper. Given the choice, most of our customers perfer Cranes Museo Silver Rag, Hahnemuhle Fine Art Pearl and the somewhat new Cranes Portfolio. We're expecting in our first shipment of Harmon Gloss and have an order in for the new Hahnemuhle Baryta paper. So far these papers have shown no signs of gassing. Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billh Posted September 18, 2007 Share #3 Posted September 18, 2007 Guys, You do NOT want to store them in wood. I remember a conference in Canada where a paper was given showing 900 year old oak was still off gassing. The prime culprits are peroxides, aldehydes and organic acids (formic and acetic). Buffering in paper (typically 2 - 4% - by weight- CaCO3) will only react with an acid that comes into contact with it. Pollutants fly right through thick buffered paper (like 4-ply museum board), where they can react with moisture and form acids on the print you are storing. The photo below shows two black and white negatives. The yellow one has been damaged by a combination of H2O2 and NO2. The pollutants had to pass through an alkaline buffered paper to reach the negative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwalker649 Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share #4 Posted September 19, 2007 Degassing only takes place with certain papers. The Epson premium line of papers suffer from this problem. If you interleave your prints with a buffered paper, the outgassing is not much of a problem. While I have not watched Michael's video, I do run quite a bit of Epson Premium Gloss and Luster. I save the interleaf sheets that come with the Cranes Museo (our house sheet for watercolor repro) to insert between the Epson papers. And, yes, our papers, printed and unprinted, are stored in wooden drawers. There are so many wonderful new papers out and comming out that we are mostly running the Epson Premium line as our commercial and poster paper. Given the choice, most of our customers perfer Cranes Museo Silver Rag, Hahnemuhle Fine Art Pearl and the somewhat new Cranes Portfolio. We're expecting in our first shipment of Harmon Gloss and have an order in for the new Hahnemuhle Baryta paper. So far these papers have shown no signs of gassing. Tom I recieved the Harman FA AI gloss today. I'm looking forward to using it but I need to have a profile made. I probably won't use the wood flat files even though I think it would work....they are at least 25 years old..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Printmaker Posted September 19, 2007 Share #5 Posted September 19, 2007 I recieved the Harman FA AI gloss today. I'm looking forward to using it but I need to have a profile made. I probably won't use the wood flat files even though I think it would work....they are at least 25 years old..... Mike If you're running a 9800, I'll send you a profile when my paper comes in. BTW: I thought you were referring to the paper outgassing, not the wood. In my case, the papers we use live in our wooden (pine) storage for a month or so before they are printed. Nearly all are in their factory wrappers and the Cranes are also interleaved. So I feel safe. Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwalker649 Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share #6 Posted September 19, 2007 Mike If you're running a 9800, I'll send you a profile when my paper comes in. BTW: I thought you were referring to the paper outgassing, not the wood. In my case, the papers we use live in our wooden (pine) storage for a month or so before they are printed. Nearly all are in their factory wrappers and the Cranes are also interleaved. So I feel safe. Tom Thanks for the offer Tom but I'm using a Canon ipf5000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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