Leica 35mm APO ASPH Waiting time [merged]

[wdahab]

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Got on the list at a US store in May, just got my "it's your turn" notice today and paid. Should have it early next week, just in time for some travel. So about 3 months total wait time, which is a lot better than I thought it would be.

Edited August 12, 2022 by wdahab

[rtai]

I just put my name on the list so maybe it’ll be a Christmas miracle.

[Capuccino-Muffin]

On 8/2/2022 at 5:03 PM, AndrewK said:

Just want to share the joy of receiving my APO 35mm. My dealer told me last week that one is incoming and asked me if i wanted it. And it is in my hand, attached to my M11 today. Such a beautiful lens… couldn’t be any more happier.

Here are few pictures from this lens.

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Why the terrible barrel distortion?

[maxfairclough]

48 minutes ago, Capuccino-Muffin said:

Why the terrible barrel distortion?

Yeah had to do a double take to check if I needed more sleep haha.

[Jan1985]

Am 2.8.2022 um 17:03 schrieb AndrewK:

Just want to share the joy of receiving my APO 35mm. My dealer told me last week that one is incoming and asked me if i wanted it. And it is in my hand, attached to my M11 today. Such a beautiful lens… couldn’t be any more happier.

Here are few pictures from this lens.

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Sorry bud pictures like you can do also with a bad Voigtländer lens... These do not show any of the real qualities of the 35 apo.

[IkarusJohn]

3 hours ago, Jan1985 said:

Sorry bud pictures like you can do also with a bad Voigtländer lens... These do not show any of the real qualities of the 35 apo.

So, what pictures show the qualities of the 35 APO?  What images show its strengths that I can’t get with my 35 Summilux pre-asph or my Distagon?  I’m not referring to your rather unkind reaction to @AndrewK’s post (I get it, you don’t think much of his photos, despite his happiness with his new lens) - it’s a serious question.  What is a 35 APO worthy photo, or at least one which is specific to its strengths?  

For me, composition trumps everything else.  If the qualities of a lens add to composition, then great; if they detract, then not so good.  I can’t think of a potential image where I’d say to myself “Oh, no!  You can’t take that image with an APO.”

[frame-it]

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3 hours ago, Jan1985 said:

Sorry bud pictures like you can do also with a bad Voigtländer lens... These do not show any of the real qualities of the 35 apo.

please do post some of your pics with the 35APO, some of your S Portraits are very nice.

Edited August 14, 2022 by frame-it

[otto.f]

2 hours ago, IkarusJohn said:

So, what pictures show the qualities of the 35 APO?  What images show its strengths that I can’t get with my 35 Summilux pre-asph or my Distagon?  I’m not referring to your rather unkind reaction to @AndrewK’s post (I get it, you don’t think much of his photos, despite his happiness with his new lens) - it’s a serious question.  What is a 35 APO worthy photo, or at least one which is specific to its strengths?  

For me, composition trumps everything else.  If the qualities of a lens add to composition, then great; if they detract, then not so good.  I can’t think of a potential image where I’d say to myself “Oh, no!  You can’t take that image with an APO.”

IMO you are exaggerating if you put the APO on one line with the pre-asph Summilux. There we go again with this non-sense that neither lens can make you a better photographer. Jono, and Sean Reid even more, have clearly demonstrated the special character of the APO and I agree with you to this extent that it is rather faint to burn down the photo’s of someone who wants to share his happiness with his APO. And btw, I find both night shots rather special in its sharpness or promising at least. I doubt whether I can do that with my FLE. This is not a discussion about composition or artistic value of a photo (although I’ve had it with demonstrating lenses with one’s pets). 

Edited August 14, 2022 by otto.f

[IkarusJohn]

55 minutes ago, otto.f said:

IMO you are exaggerating if you put the APO on one line with the pre-asph Summilux. There we go again with this non-sense that neither lens can make you a better photographer. Jono, and Sean Reid even more, have clearly demonstrated the special character of the APO and I agree with you to this extent that it is rather faint to burn down the photo’s of someone who wants to share his happiness with his APO. And btw, I find both night shots rather special in its sharpness or promising at least. I doubt whether I can do that with my FLE. This is not a discussion about composition or artistic value of a photo (although I’ve had it with demonstrating lenses with one’s pets). 

I think you get my point, Otto …

[Capuccino-Muffin]

3 hours ago, IkarusJohn said:

So, what pictures show the qualities of the 35 APO?  What images show its strengths that I can’t get with my 35 Summilux pre-asph or my Distagon?  I’m not referring to your rather unkind reaction to @AndrewK’s post (I get it, you don’t think much of his photos, despite his happiness with his new lens) - it’s a serious question.  What is a 35 APO worthy photo, or at least one which is specific to its strengths?  

For me, composition trumps everything else.  If the qualities of a lens add to composition, then great; if they detract, then not so good.  I can’t think of a potential image where I’d say to myself “Oh, no!  You can’t take that image with an APO.”

In case you haven’t noticed: this has nothing to do with the content of the photos. The examples showcase extreme barrel distortion that only the worst lenses  can match. I’ve never tried the voigtlander cheapies but we know they do distort.

Anyhow, I really hope the distortion has been added by the photographer and is not native to the lens, which would be catastrophical, really. 
Of course it has been added by the user, but why? It doesn’t add anything except separate the viewers in two groups: those who see the distortion (also tentatively labeled as the “Haters” because unfortunately that is how things work in these forums) and those who don’t (but should, as this is supposed to be a serious photography forum, and not a blind love festival).

The Leica users that don’t see the distortion should definitely go to an eye doctor and rethink their visual worth, and their Leica worth, to be honnest. It simply screams distortion.

Edited August 14, 2022 by Capuccino-Muffin

[Capuccino-Muffin]

Please look at the corners of the photos, definitely 93-ish degrees angle.

[wdahab]

Everyone is debating rudeness and photo quality, when really the question is “lol the guy did a border on his photos to make the sides round”

[frame-it]

10 minutes ago, wdahab said:

Everyone is debating rudeness and photo quality, when really the question is “lol the guy did a border on his photos to make the sides round”

whether he added a border/roundness or not, there is no need for some people to be rude right? the content is good, and his flickr page has a lot of very nice photos.

[pedaes]

10 hours ago, IkarusJohn said:

For me, composition trumps everything else.

I think the light and atmospherics might have a small role to play😀

 

[Gelatino]

One thing  the APO 35 can do that other Leica 35 can't, is focus down to 0,30m.

[Jeff S]

15 minutes ago, Gelatino said:

One thing  the APO 35 can do that other Leica 35 can't, is focus down to 0,30m.

The Leica SL 35 APO focuses to 27 cm.  Neither can do this using RF.

Jeff

[Gelatino]

OK I was thinking of M system as the subject is the new M APO 35.

 

[Jeff S]

6 minutes ago, Gelatino said:

OK I was thinking of M system as the subject is the new M APO 35.

 

Yes, but the M 35 APO can’t focus to 30 cm using the RF, one of the cores of the M system; might as well use it on the SL for close focusing.

Jeff

[pedaes]

28 minutes ago, Jeff S said:

M 35 APO can’t focus to 30 cm using the RF,

From the outset, Leica said  "focus to 30cm with the EVF". No need for SL to achieve minimum focus.

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[Jeff S]

13 minutes ago, pedaes said:

From the outset, Leica said  "focus to 30cm with the EVF". No need for SL to achieve minimum focus.

Well aware, but I only use RF with M bodies.  I didn’t write that the SL is needed; just that it was designed to give the best EVF experience.

The 35 APO was initially spec-ed at 70cm by the marketing team.  But they switched when the tech team said that 30cm could be accommodated via off-sensor focus, and the concept was changed. No doubt giving Leica another marketing hook for the high price point. Wasted on someone like me, and with added complexity. But to each his/her own.

Jeff