Marquinius Posted September 13, 2007 Share #1 Posted September 13, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm pretty new at this forum and with Leica. I'm very happy with my M8 (before this I started with a Canon 30D that I traded for a Digilux 3 ... was going to throw that one out, decided otherwise and am now owner of a Digilux 3 and an M8 ... :) ). M8 is attached to a 50mm summicron and yes, I'm a happy camper. Lots of money in it, though. Wife is NOT complaining, but I'm sure this would change fast if I spend another € 2500 on something as small as another lens. Money wise it was just to much of an investment to buy an additional Leica wide angle lens, so I bought a 15mm Voigtlander at Robert White (http://www.robertwhite.co.uk). And WOW: - service and personal contact: A-Okay - fast delivery: how about " next day", seriously! Took the first few shots just now and yes, I'm really a happy camper. Give me some time to get used to it and I will upload some pics. Am traveling to south of France this sunday and will take M8 and lenses with me... Now the question: anybody else using this Voiglander 15mm? Any tips? Seems pretty straightforward using it, but I'm open to suggestions. Not being able to focus other than by hand is Ok with me. And the first pictures looked sharp too! Nice to be on this forum! And I will upload photo's in short time! Because that's what's it all about in the end. Marco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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farnz Posted September 13, 2007 Share #2 Posted September 13, 2007 Welcome to the forum, Marco, and congratulations on your new M8!There are many posts on the Voigtlander CV15 but to save you a little search time it is an excellent lens as you've already discovered and the depth of field is so deep that focussing is largely irrelevant for all but the closest subjects.It's important to use a Leica UV/IR filter (E39) with the CV15 and to code the lens so that the M8 knows it's wearing the filter and to make the adjustment for cyan in the corners. John Milich manufactures excellent brass screw mount to M mount adapters with pits engraved that you can code it yourself with a paint and a fine brush. You need to email John at jm@milich.com John also manufactures a customised hood for the CV15 that allows you to attach the UV/IR filter right way around.Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdrmd Posted September 13, 2007 Share #3 Posted September 13, 2007 I can second the recommendation for John Milich. First rate service and workmanship. DR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted September 13, 2007 Share #4 Posted September 13, 2007 Hi Marco, I assume you got a 21mm viewfinder to take the M8's crop factor into account. One tip is to point the camera downwards a little when metering either lock the meter or meter manually. There's a bit of a risk of underexposure if you don't as the lens can include a lot of sky which can affect the meter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker Posted September 13, 2007 Share #5 Posted September 13, 2007 Welcome Marco, The CV 15 is a great lens. Robert White are excellent people to deal with. Best wishes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marquinius Posted September 13, 2007 Author Share #6 Posted September 13, 2007 ahhh, Less than an hour sice I posted my thread and people are responding. Great! Feels like a real welcome. Ofcourse I will look into coding and things, but what's really amazing is that the first few pictures made me wonder about under exposure: great tip to point the lens a little downward! Marco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted September 13, 2007 Share #7 Posted September 13, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Marco, it's a cracking lens, not as good as you'd expect from a Leica, but pretty close, which is remarkable given the price. I've found that the lens performs best at the larger apertures - i.e. f4.5 to 8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted September 14, 2007 Share #8 Posted September 14, 2007 This is an excellent lens that, if focused exactly, rivals the WATE in resolution. I've reviewed it and virtually all of the other Voigtlander lenses on the M8 and the only two that I have some reservations about are the 40/1.4 and the 21/4.0 Skopar. The 21/4.0 P is excellent. Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradreiman Posted September 14, 2007 Share #9 Posted September 14, 2007 It's one of my favorite lens-i think you'll like it. Agree with Sean on the 21 skopar. I never use it. The resolution is poor to my eye. The 15 w/21 viewfinder is great for landscapes and anything else really. Here's some examples portrait and landscape....B Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/33351-voigtlander/?do=findComment&comment=352741'>More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted September 14, 2007 Share #10 Posted September 14, 2007 Agree with Sean on the 21 skopar. I never use it. The resolution is poor to my eye. Hi Brad, The 21 Skopars I've tested so far have strong resolution on center and much weaker resolution in the corners. The new 21P I tested performs fairly well in the corners. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradreiman Posted September 14, 2007 Share #11 Posted September 14, 2007 Sean-what is the 21p? I haven't heard of it. I'm in the market for a 21 to 24 focal length. Love the other voigtlanders I have but I think only having the 21 skopar in that length has excluded me from using that length....B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted September 14, 2007 Share #12 Posted September 14, 2007 Sean-what is the 21p? I haven't heard of it. I'm in the market for a 21 to 24 focal length. Love the other voigtlanders I have but I think only having the 21 skopar in that length has excluded me from using that length....B Hi Brad, Its the new M-mount CV 21. Supposedly the optical formula is identical to the Skopar but the results, in the sample I tested, are not. I just reviewed it, see the site. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEBnewyork Posted September 14, 2007 Share #13 Posted September 14, 2007 Back to the CV15. For those with the Milich hood and filter, when not in use how are you storing this lens. Have you found a suitable lenscap and leave the hood on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artichoke Posted September 14, 2007 Share #14 Posted September 14, 2007 This is an excellent lens that, if focused exactly, rivals the WATE in resolution. I've reviewed it and virtually all of the other Voigtlander lenses on the M8 and the only two that I have some reservations about are the 40/1.4 and the 21/4.0 Skopar. The 21/4.0 P is excellent. Cheers, I wonder what are your reservations about the 40 Nokton? I may not be as critical as you are, but I have found it an excellent lens which version did you test? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted September 14, 2007 Share #15 Posted September 14, 2007 Its the new M-mount CV 21. Supposedly the optical formula is identical to the Skopar but the results, in the sample I tested, are not. I wonder if that could be down to sample variation in the lens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olsen Posted September 14, 2007 Share #16 Posted September 14, 2007 I have done some comparisons between WATE, which cost me about 27.000 NOK with this enormous viewfinder & filter holder+ filter and this excellent Voigtländer 15 mm 4,5 which I bought 2.hand for 2.000 NOK adapter included. I see more soft corners than Sean Reid does, but if the difference in optical quality is still so minor - even compared to the WATE with all it's excellent filter and coding, and all that, it keeps me awake at night thinking about if the economical side of it. Further; the Voingtländer 15 mm 4,5 Super Wide Heliar Asph makes the M8 look more amateurish. That is an advantage in many situations. I just love it! I might have shown this before; Grand Cafe' Oslo. M8 - 1/45 -aparture 4,5 - ISO640 hand held. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/33351-voigtlander/?do=findComment&comment=352938'>More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted September 14, 2007 Share #17 Posted September 14, 2007 I wonder if that could be down to sample variation in the lens? Might be... I've tested three 21 Skopars so far with the same results but I'm going to test two more. The very first sample of the 21P I tested was good in the corners. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted September 14, 2007 Share #18 Posted September 14, 2007 I wonder what are your reservations about the 40 Nokton?I may not be as critical as you are, but I have found it an excellent lens which version did you test? Have you read the review? It was reviewed on its own. Stopped down, its a great lens. Wide open, I don't care for the OOF rendering (bokeh) although some may like it. There's also some focus shift that other CV lenses don't show. So that's why I say "concerns". Its certainly not a bad lens and I did some work with it earlier this year that I was quite happy with. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted September 14, 2007 Share #19 Posted September 14, 2007 I see more soft corners than Sean Reid does, but if the difference in optical quality is still so minor - even compared to the WATE with all it's excellent filter and coding, and all that, it keeps me awake at night thinking about if the economical side of it. Keep in mind that we've worked with two different samples of the lens. <G> Also, unless one does careful focus bracketing with both lenses (on a tripod) it's very difficult to draw reliable conclusions about their resolution. The contrast differences are noticeable, however, and the lack of RF coupling on the CV 15 is problematic for anyone who is critical about focus/resolution (more critical than I would be in my own work). My review of the ultra-wide RF lenses includes the CV12, CV15, WATE and Zeiss 15. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker Posted September 14, 2007 Share #20 Posted September 14, 2007 This is an excellent lens that, if focused exactly, rivals the WATE in resolution. I've reviewed it and virtually all of the other Voigtlander lenses on the M8 and the only two that I have some reservations about are the 40/1.4 and the 21/4.0 Skopar. The 21/4.0 P is excellent. Cheers, Did you review the Nokton SC or the MC version? I'm quite surprised that the CV 15 rivals the WATE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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