a.noctilux Posted November 3, 2021 Share #21 Posted November 3, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 57 minutes ago, bcapphoto said: For me, the benefit is simplicity. Right now, I constantly battle (myself) with which of the 2 to pick up. Will I be shooting low-light? Grab the M246. Do I want colour? Grab the MD262. Will my wife want colour photos of these (LOL)? Grab the MD262. Do I want to shoot it in dedicated B&W? Grab the M246. So on and so forth. Right now, the core reasons to grab the M246 is either b/c I want to shoot it in B&W or I know I'll need the low-light performance. Grabbing the M10D at least eliminates 1 of those. I can be confident in the M10D in low-light in a way I cannot be confident in my MD262 in low-light. Hmmm ... Take the one of your choice, M-D or M246. Let your wife take the other one, hehe... Or taking the risk to let her choosing the first one, then the other is for you. That what I do for some time now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bcapphoto Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share #22 Posted November 4, 2021 On 11/3/2021 at 9:15 AM, poli said: I also made the move from M-D 262 to M10-d and can agree with the posts above. Still the M-D 262 is a wonderful camera and I personally did prefer the iso button on the back and the faster boot up time and lack of any wifi option. Apart from that, the M10-D is the better camera for me and the connection to the foto app and also the possibility of using an Visoflex makes it a bit more versatile e.g.when using a tripod (it is my only digital camera). Would you give up an M246 and MD262 for an M10D? Obviously there'd be a bit cash leftover, but I'd be giving up 2 cameras to gain the M10D. Thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poli Posted November 4, 2021 Share #23 Posted November 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, bcapphoto said: Would you give up an M246 and MD262 for an M10D? Obviously there'd be a bit cash leftover, but I'd be giving up 2 cameras to gain the M10D. Thoughts? I don’t think so. To be honest, when I owned my MD262 my plan was to buy a 2nd hand M246 at some stage. However there was none available in spring 2019. Then I had the chance to swap my md with m10d at the Leica store. I did do the swap and enjoyed it. I still do! In retrospect I would also have enjoyed the m246 with the md262. Now my film m-a serves as b&w camera… I love b&w. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benqui Posted November 4, 2021 Share #24 Posted November 4, 2021 I changed my MD 262 for an M10-D because of the much better low light performance. But for sure the MD 262 is also one of the most beautiful Leica M cameras. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcapphoto Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share #25 Posted November 4, 2021 1 hour ago, poli said: I don’t think so. To be honest, when I owned my MD262 my plan was to buy a 2nd hand M246 at some stage. However there was none available in spring 2019. Then I had the chance to swap my md with m10d at the Leica store. I did do the swap and enjoyed it. I still do! In retrospect I would also have enjoyed the m246 with the md262. Now my film m-a serves as b&w camera… I love b&w. If you could do it again ... would have you kept your MD262 and grabbed an M246? Or are you happy you skipped out on the M246 and swapped your MD262 for an M10D? IMO - it doesn't make sense to have both an M246 and M10D. An M10D and M10M? Maybe. But not 2 bodies from 2 different generations. Makes batteries, muscle memory, etc. weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcapphoto Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share #26 Posted November 4, 2021 43 minutes ago, benqui said: I changed my MD 262 for an M10-D because of the much better low light performance. But for sure the MD 262 is also one of the most beautiful Leica M cameras. For sure. Do you find the M10D is too full of bells and whistles? How do you like IQ, specifically low-light performance on the M10D vs. the MD262? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmoM3 Posted November 5, 2021 Share #27 Posted November 5, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've said this before, but I prefer the M-D over the M10-D and I've owned both. That metal ISO dial on the back with no auto-ISO makes me tingle. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poli Posted November 5, 2021 Share #28 Posted November 5, 2021 7 hours ago, bcapphoto said: If you could do it again ... would have you kept your MD262 and grabbed an M246? Or are you happy you skipped out on the M246 and swapped your MD262 for an M10D? IMO - it doesn't make sense to have both an M246 and M10D. An M10D and M10M? Maybe. But not 2 bodies from 2 different generations. Makes batteries, muscle memory, etc. weird. If I could do it all again I would stick to the md and get a m246. but… knowing myself… after a while i would still want an m10d and m10m. The problem with looking back at decisions is that your perspective changes over time. So it is kind of useless and can be frustrating. Also if you want simplicity and ONE camera. And you are sure you stick to that for a long while, I’d say: get the m10-d. The low ligt performance is noticeably better. And the body is slimmer. Which is really nice. And just one camera to grab, not having the choice for me always is a ‘thing’. Now that I have a second (film) camera I did introduce a new ‘problem’… I know it might sound crazy.🤪 And yes, I also think it makes sense to stick to one system. Less clutter of different batteries and charges. So the setup you have is really really nice! I hope this helped you 🙂 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benqui Posted November 5, 2021 Share #29 Posted November 5, 2021 vor 8 Stunden schrieb bcapphoto: For sure. Do you find the M10D is too full of bells and whistles? How do you like IQ, specifically low-light performance on the M10D vs. the MD262? The IQ in low light conditions is much better. Yes, the size is a bit smaller in comparison to the MD 262 but this was not a reason for me to change. The fake level is very useful during walking through the street or a shooting. I use it very often. To me the M10-D is perfect, I do not know, what a M11-D could have to „upgrade“ again 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poli Posted November 5, 2021 Share #30 Posted November 5, 2021 Ah and I just realize. Last summer I could borrow an m246 for a weekend. And although the files that came out of it were great. I realized I was spoiled by the shooting experience of the m10-d. Although the body changes and viewfinder changes are small, they do make a difference. The m246 also felt a little clunky to me compared to the m10-d. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted November 5, 2021 Share #31 Posted November 5, 2021 2 hours ago, poli said: Ah and I just realize. Last summer I could borrow an m246 for a weekend. And although the files that came out of it were great. I realized I was spoiled by the shooting experience of the m10-d. Although the body changes and viewfinder changes are small, they do make a difference. The m246 also felt a little clunky to me compared to the m10-d. Hello Poli, Can you please say more about the clunky(ness) of M246. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poli Posted November 5, 2021 Share #32 Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) Sure, of course it was just my feeling and entirely subjective. But the M10-d feels nicer in the hand. The process of taking pictures feels more smooth. My impression is mainly due to the slimmer body of the m10-d, the viewfinder and the shutter. Surely also lack of screen plays an important roll on how the camera feels in the hand or when you look through the viewfinder. perhaps 'clunky' sounds a bit too harsh and is a bad translation of my dutch thoughts... Edited November 5, 2021 by poli 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted November 5, 2021 Share #33 Posted November 5, 2021 Thanks @poli I though that because of lack on the M246 the faux-wind-on-lever 😉. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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