girphoto Posted September 2, 2007 Share #1 Posted September 2, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) A little break from Space takes me to the football field. I just purchased a 135 f4 tele-elemt in 10 condition (thanks to varoius threads on using this lense) I was looking for something to walk around with and have some fun with and I think I found it. At todays University of Miami football game, a fan in the stands just had the proper dress for a test of my new (old) lense. Data: ISO 160, Comp -1/3 Wb: Cloudy DNG+JPG (Images posted are from DNG files processed through PM to CS3). f4 @ "A" shutter speed. NO CUT FILTER used. A question fro thoes whi use this lense, Do I need a cut Filter? Thanks Gary http://www.girphotos.com Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/32471-m8-135f4-and-college-football-fan/?do=findComment&comment=344074'>More sharing options...
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lars_bergquist Posted September 2, 2007 Share #2 Posted September 2, 2007 For best colour quality, you do need an IR-cutting filter. With many subjects, visible light does swamp the IR component, which is then of little importance. The other extreme case is certain black or dark materials (synthetic fibers especially) which reflect little visible light but much IR. Here, black will change into purple. I remember one picture posted at this forum, in the early days of the IR flap. It was a piano recital where everything – the ladies' gowns, the gentlemens' suits, the wall hangings, the carpets – everything but the grand piano itself came out purple! But also green foliage and to some extent skin tones can get its colours falsified. Get a 39mm B+W 486 filter for the Tele-Elmarit, but coding is not necessary with lenses of 50mm and above (or even 35mm lenses of moderate aperture). Nice pics BTW. Any problems with framing/composition? The old man from the Age Before IR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted September 2, 2007 Share #3 Posted September 2, 2007 Is this the older compact version, or the newer one which looks similar to the Apo-135? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 2, 2007 Share #4 Posted September 2, 2007 I have the 135mm apo and i just love having a nice tele handy. Very sharp also Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodyspedden Posted September 2, 2007 Share #5 Posted September 2, 2007 I also have the 135 3.4 APO and absolutely love it. Attached is an image from the castle Neuschwanstein in Frussen Germany. The sun came out for about two minutes and Guy Mancuso and I were frantically shooting to get the rapidly fading light. Hope you like it. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/32471-m8-135f4-and-college-football-fan/?do=findComment&comment=344369'>More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 2, 2007 Share #6 Posted September 2, 2007 hey i was there too. LOL Great shot Woody. The 135mm really is a nice focal length on the M8. i guess that one lens 50mm theory on another thread here would really work well if i had wings. LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tummydoc Posted September 2, 2007 Share #7 Posted September 2, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) What are you fellows using as a framing guide? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 2, 2007 Share #8 Posted September 2, 2007 Vinay i had mine converted to a 90mm lens mount at leica than they coded for me to the 135 2.8 . So now i mount the 1385 i get 90 framelines that comes up plus i get the Exif data of 135mm. I thought about this a little time ago and i asked Robert Fisk if it could be done and and leica was able to do it and also offer it to others at 125 dollars. Pretty neat trick , so now at least I have some guidance in framing to go by instead of just the focusing patch and it does help me. Now Jaap mentioned you can turn the lens further on the M8 and get the 90 framelines also , but i have not tried that trick and it makes me nervous turning a lens past it's point on the mount. But it can be done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
girphoto Posted September 2, 2007 Author Share #9 Posted September 2, 2007 Is this the older compact version, or the newer one which looks similar to the Apo-135? Hi Carsten, it is the 135 tele-Elmar F4 the one with out a lense hood attached and just before the APO version. It seem to be very sharp, I have the extra eyepiece 1.25X and I used the center focus box to frame and focus. To Guy...Should I have the lense coded for 90mm? and use thoes frame lines? Thanks Gary http://www.girphotos.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 2, 2007 Share #10 Posted September 2, 2007 The only thing the coding will do is EXIF data so you really don't need to do it but why not go for the 135 2.8 so you know you shot the 135mm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodyspedden Posted September 2, 2007 Share #11 Posted September 2, 2007 Hi Carsten, it is the 135 tele-Elmar F4 the one with out a lense hood attached and just before the APO version.It seem to be very sharp, I have the extra eyepiece 1.25X and I used the center focus box to frame and focus. To Guy...Should I have the lense coded for 90mm? and use thoes frame lines? Thanks Gary Gary I. Rothstein, Photography Gary My 135 APO is at Leica USA having the mount conversion done as we speak. I think that having the 90 framelines come up is a real advantage. On the other hand you can use Jaap's approach to bringing up the 90 framelines without a mount change and save the $125. And of course you can always chimp to see what you are actually getting. Given the (in) accuracy of Leica's framelines that is something you will probably do anyway. If you find you use the 135 often I would strongly recommend the APO 3.4 It is just an amazing lens. Woody Spedden Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
girphoto Posted September 2, 2007 Author Share #12 Posted September 2, 2007 The only thing the coding will do is EXIF data so you really don't need to do it but why not go for the 135 2.8 so you know you shot the 135mm Hi Guy Thanks The deal on the lense was to good to pass up and this lense on the M8 will be used on a limited basis. But it is nice to know that you can get out to the medium tele range if need. Thanks Gary http://www.girphotos.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
girphoto Posted September 2, 2007 Author Share #13 Posted September 2, 2007 Gary My 135 APO is at Leica USA having the mount conversion done as we speak. I think that having the 90 framelines come up is a real advantage. On the other hand you can use Jaap's approach to bringing up the 90 framelines without a mount change and save the $125. And of course you can always chimp to see what you are actually getting. Given the (in) accuracy of Leica's framelines that is something you will probably do anyway. If you find you use the 135 often I would strongly recommend the APO 3.4 It is just an amazing lens. Woody Spedden Hi Woody Thanks for the info. I have a project in mind for the lense and that is running it remote from the roof of the Vehicle Assembly Building at Kennedy Space Center as a wide view. Yep, 180mm from 545 feet up and 3.2 miles away is a wide view. That will be done with the launch scheduled for the end of October at 11:30 am EDT. Gary http://www.girphotos.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 2, 2007 Share #14 Posted September 2, 2007 This would actually be a excellent lens for this use. it would probably handle the heat wavelengths pretty well. Actually heading to Florida in the morning for a week in Fort Lauredale Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 2, 2007 Share #15 Posted September 2, 2007 I am enjoying using mine too.Mine is the earlier version, with the reversible hood, which I found a couple of weeks ago 21 years old but totally unused and still sealed in its original factory bag. I have pinched the Leica IR filter from my Elmar 50 for mine but I have ordered a 486 for it from HK, where they are only GBP19 each for an e39. I am using the "Jaap" technique of rotating beyond the latch detent, which brings the 90 framelines up, without the requirement to change the bayonet. The 90 framelines are too small for the 90 and I would guess at infinity are nearer 110-115 mm, so quite workable for the 135. The focusing barrel is the smoothest I have ever come across. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
girphoto Posted September 3, 2007 Author Share #16 Posted September 3, 2007 I am enjoying using mine too.Mine is the earlier version, with the reversible hood, which I found a couple of weeks ago 21 years old but totally unused and still sealed in its original factory bag. I have pinched the Leica IR filter from my Elmar 50 for mine but I have ordered a 486 for it from HK, where they are only GBP19 each for an e39. I am using the "Jaap" technique of rotating beyond the latch detent, which brings the 90 framelines up, without the requirement to change the bayonet. The 90 framelines are too small for the 90 and I would guess at infinity are nearer 110-115 mm, so quite workable for the 135. The focusing barrel is the smoothest I have ever come across. Wilson Hi Wilson I have found the same thing on the smoooooth barrell. My daler wh sold me the lense said that he might have an old hood around in a box that he is going to look for. Ordered a filter today. Will check with Leica on Tuesday to see whnat the backlog mght be to convert the mount with the 90mm coding (or I can swap it off of my 90mm (no I dont't think so) Anyway, an all around fun lense to use. Gary http://www.girphotos.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordfanjpn Posted September 3, 2007 Share #17 Posted September 3, 2007 I have ordered a 486 for it from HK, where they are only GBP19 each for an e39. Care to share the location of this place? I think I paid about twice that for my 39's. Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted September 3, 2007 Share #18 Posted September 3, 2007 Gary, the Tele-Elmarit is a super-sharp lens. It is so good that the only real advantage of the Apo-Telyt may well be its lower weight, at least in normal shooting situations. It reaches maximum definition at 5.6, but is so good wide open that I seldom bothered to stop down. (I now use a 135mm Elmarit with the M8 because of the framing issue). The hood you are seeking is the 12575 which fits all 90 and 135mm lenses that take 39mm filters, and has done so since 1958! This perhaps the most long-lived of all Leica accessories is actually available new from Leica, as the 90mm Macro uses it. If the lens agrees with you and your shooting needs, then I say congratulations. Oh yes, and listen again Solms, give us that Apo-Telyt with spectacles! The old man from the Age of 135mm Lenses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 3, 2007 Share #19 Posted September 3, 2007 Care to share the location of this place? I think I paid about twice that for my 39's. Bill Bill, They sell on eBay under the names HKsupplies and HVstar. I have used them before and they have been 100% reliable. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted September 3, 2007 Share #20 Posted September 3, 2007 Vinay: If you don't want to mess with converting visually from the 90 framelines - I just center the focus patch and visualize an area 2.5x longer and taller than the patch itself. Works amazingly well. BTW the pre-APO Elmar works so well (stopped down to 5.6 and when focus is behaving itself) that I have gotten superb sharpness even cropping to about a 250mm field of view (comes out around 7 Mpixels without resampling). 250mm equivalent from an RF is rather awe-inspiring - and one of the reasons I've been able to put off worrying about an SLR until I can see what an R10 (and whatever competition is around by then) looks like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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