S007 w/Hasseblad lens and other options... in 2021 ?

[Einst_Stein]

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2 hours ago, sebben said:

Why would they go up? There will be a whole line of new autofocusing mirrorless MF lenses launched with the S4 that will be better in every way...

The current used S stuffs are heavily under rated. Any S4, even if it is SLR, will boost up demands of S lenses. 

[Pieter12]

4 hours ago, Einst_Stein said:

The current used S stuffs are heavily under rated. Any S4, even if it is SLR, will boost up demands of S lenses. 

And why is that?

[Einst_Stein]

1 hour ago, Pieter12 said:

And why is that?

 Purely guess. You don’t have to agree. 

[Pieter12]

32 minutes ago, Einst_Stein said:

 Purely guess. You don’t have to agree. 

My guess is unless the S4 is an SLR (highly doubtful, given where the market is moving and how much of an improvement such a camera would be over the S3), the current S lenses would not be readily adaptable to a mirrorless body. So S4 purchasers would not be buying old S lenses and the demand would remain about the same as it is now or diminish as users embrace a Leica MF mirrorless system.

[Slender]

34 minutes ago, Pieter12 said:

My guess is unless the S4 is an SLR (highly doubtful, given where the market is moving and how much of an improvement such a camera would be over the S3), the current S lenses would not be readily adaptable to a mirrorless body. So S4 purchasers would not be buying old S lenses and the demand would remain about the same as it is now or diminish as users embrace a Leica MF mirrorless system.

Well i dont see why it would be hard to adapt... it already is to SL platform. As I said it took nearly 10 years for Leica to completer each road map (S and SL) so I dont see why Leica wouldnt take this in consideration and also abandon altogether their legacy S users.

They did an R adapter for the M and the SL so there is little reason they wouldnt supply one for S(lr) to S(m)

[Einst_Stein]

2 hours ago, Pieter12 said:

My guess is unless the S4 is an SLR (highly doubtful, given where the market is moving and how much of an improvement such a camera would be over the S3), the current S lenses would not be readily adaptable to a mirrorless body. So S4 purchasers would not be buying old S lenses and the demand would remain about the same as it is now or diminish as users embrace a Leica MF mirrorless system.

New Leica new MF mirrorless will be hard to adapt to S lenses? Oh, boy! 

[sebben]

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They will of course make an adapter, but that doesn't change the fact that autofocus technology has moved on. You can see for yourself how noisy and slow the autofocus is on the SL with adapter...

 

No way that the Leica man would settle for that on his mini medium format S4.

[Einst_Stein]

9 minutes ago, sebben said:

They will of course make an adapter, but that doesn't change the fact that autofocus technology has moved on. You can see for yourself how noisy and slow the autofocus is on the SL with adapter...

 

No way that the Leica man would settle for that on his mini medium format S4.

I don't see.  Maybe simply it doesn't matter. 

Anyway, it depends on who and what is going to use it, espeically those care the S image quality. For those who care, they would not buy it anyway. It is how many people want it, given S is relative a nitch.

[BernardC]

Leica has already stated that there would be an adapter for S lenses on the new system. And an adapter for L-Mount lenses, and one for M lenses. 

12 hours ago, sebben said:

that doesn't change the fact that autofocus technology has moved on.

The S was never in direct competition with the Canon R1 (or contemporary equivalents). Our existing lenses won't magically focus faster on a new body. That's OK, they have other things to offer us.

[Pieter12]

8 hours ago, BernardC said:

Leica has already stated that there would be an adapter for S lenses on the new system. And an adapter for L-Mount lenses, and one for M lenses. 

I did not realize that Leica had even officially stated there will be an S4.

[Einst_Stein]

41 minutes ago, Pieter12 said:

I did not realizica had even officially stated there will be an S4.

Of course Leica has confirmed the new MF cameras and the adapter for S line. It is expected to show up in 2026 or earlier.

If you really want to face the truth, though I highly doubt, go search it.  

Edited June 30 by Einst_Stein

[darylgo]

9 hours ago, BernardC said:

Our existing lenses won't magically focus faster on a new body.

The S007 focused our lenses faster than the previous bodies and this is what broke the motors.   If the new body, S4,  could speed the AF  would Leica take a chance? 

1 hour ago, Pieter12 said:

I did not realize that Leica had even officially stated there will be an S4.

Officially?  Formally?  Hearsay?  Rumors?  The latter two afaik. 

 

27 minutes ago, Einst_Stein said:

If you really want to face the truth, though I highly doubt, go search it.  

Sadly, I think the S will join the R and T/CL with no official, formal, hearsay or rumors yet of it's demise.        

Edited June 30 by darylgo

[BernardC]

There are a large number of official Leica spokespeople (not anonymous leaks) confirming the new medium format digital. The latest comes straight from the Chairman of the Board:

https://leicarumors.com/2025/05/27/dr-andreas-kaufmann-on-the-rumored-leica-medium-format-camera-the-camera-is-real-and-is-still-being-worked-on.aspx/

I acknowledge that some internet commenters may know more about what's going on inside Leica than the Chairman of the Board, or the Head of Product Development (who also said it was coming), or just about any Leica employee who's been asked in the last couple of years, but these enlightened commenters can't reveal their sources. For obvious reasons.