Lecia 50mm cron vs Lecia APO vs CV Lanthar APO

[RF’sDelight]

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@padam Thanks a lot! Never came across this kind of cine lenses before. I knew only this big C series from Leica/Leitz but I’m not into video/film at all.

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[padam]

Yes, I mean modifying one for cinema use is essentially the same thing, but if one would rather order one ready-made from Leica, the option is there, and I guess some rental houses may have these as well.
Connected to this topic, interestingly, they have the Summilux and the Noctilux as 50mm options, but they've ignored the APO-Summicron (which they have as 75mm or 90mm options)
I guess they've figured out the target market would rather pay less for a faster lens and the resolution is already more than enough.

After the RED Komodo we will see RF-mount being more widely adapted, more Cinema EOS cameras coming as well, these lenses could gain yet more interest for video applications.
E-mount has been here for a while, now with the FX6 with a FF sensor and built-in electronic ND at a more reasonable price level, lots of options to use these lenses for video/film, yet another factor that might solidify strong resale values for the future on these lenses, whether new or old.

[paulcurtis]

On 2/19/2021 at 12:33 PM, Al Brown said:

@paulcurtis There is always exactly what you are looking for somewhere on the web, it only depends how thorough you look.
Comparison of Voigt Lanthar 50 AA with M 50 Apo (google translate it):

https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=254&t=5975261

Thank me later.

Bit late but I am thanking you now!

And also the amusement of google translation, that was a bonus.

None of the shots really put the lenses in the kinds of situations that would show performance differences. But i did notice a label of APO 24/2 in the pictures (which goes once you translate it). So i don't know if anyone can translate properly but is there a rumoured 24/2 from voightlander too? That would be really interesting...

thanks
Paul

[paulcurtis]

On 2/21/2021 at 12:43 PM, padam said:

Yes, I mean modifying one for cinema use is essentially the same thing, but if one would rather order one ready-made from Leica, the option is there, and I guess some rental houses may have these as well.
Connected to this topic, interestingly, they have the Summilux and the Noctilux as 50mm options, but they've ignored the APO-Summicron (which they have as 75mm or 90mm options)
I guess they've figured out the target market would rather pay less for a faster lens and the resolution is already more than enough.

After the RED Komodo we will see RF-mount being more widely adapted, more Cinema EOS cameras coming as well, these lenses could gain yet more interest for video applications.
E-mount has been here for a while, now with the FX6 with a FF sensor and built-in electronic ND at a more reasonable price level, lots of options to use these lenses for video/film, yet another factor that might solidify strong resale values for the future on these lenses, whether new or old.

Yes, am aware of the M 0.8 range. AFAIK there is no real difference between those and the normal versions. The focus gears are in different places from lens to lens which makes it kinda pointless and most importantly the MFD is the same too. However they are an awesome size but in reality f1.4 is not something i have ever needed in motion. Also they're marked in f stops and not t stops and i would be curious to see what the t's would be for these.

I have considered summiluxes but again, i hit the MFD all the time. I ended up in a close bathroom scene. In this case with a Komodo and i was hoping the 28 cron. But i had to move to my CV 21mm f1.8 due to distance issues. 

I often wonder whether the MDF in M lenses is a real hard design issue or not. I mean on a helicoid the image still looks fantastic (to me)

There is just an abundance of purple fringing on voightlanders which i find problematic. But maybe if the APO range increases and the do RF mounts that might be more interesting.

I know what's going to happen. I'm going to end up getting the 50 APO to see for myself...

thanks all
Paul

[algrove]

Still looking for a comparison between the Leica APO 50/2 and the Voigtlander APO 50/2 VM lens using an M10 hopefully..

Edited June 18, 2021 by algrove

[hdmesa]

On 6/18/2021 at 2:21 PM, algrove said:

Still looking for a comparison between the Leica APO 50/2 and the Voigtlander APO 50/2 VM lens using an M10 hopefully..

Did you see the links in post 17 and 18 of this thread? M10 will be less noticeable difference than M10-R, which would mean all the more reason to get the Voigtlander.

[samlee.hk]

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Voigtlander APO-LANTHAR 50mm F2.0 The highest level of E Mount head? How does it compare with the Leica 50 APO?

 

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[algrove]

On 6/22/2021 at 4:21 PM, hdmesa said:

Did you see the links in post 17 and 18 of this thread? M10 will be less noticeable difference than M10-R, which would mean all the more reason to get the Voigtlander.

Thanks. Nice comparison shots.

[algrove]

Samlee.hk

Thanks for all your hard work and write up.

[Phatcat]

On 6/22/2021 at 1:21 PM, hdmesa said:

Did you see the links in post 17 and 18 of this thread? M10 will be less noticeable difference than M10-R, which would mean all the more reason to get the Voigtlander.

 

On 6/18/2021 at 1:21 PM, algrove said:

Still looking for a comparison between the Leica APO 50/2 and the Voigtlander APO 50/2 VM lens using an M10 hopefully..

Maybe Lloyd will do it one of these days.