M10-d manual white balance with white card

[Twest]

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Just upgraded from M240. Cannot find information on setting manual white balance with white card with M10-d. Need assistance please.

Thank you,

T West

[Good To Be Retired]

Good question.  The app shows a pulldown menu for white balance, but doesn't say what the choices are.

 

 

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Edited November 4, 2020 by Good To Be Retired

[evikne]

I don't own an M10-D, but it is probably much easier to set the white balance in post. Just click with the WB pipette on the picture of the card in LR, and copy the WB settings over to the other pictures taken in the same light.

[Twest]

Thanks. I can select grey card under the white balance menu. However it does not give instructions on how to set the data point.

[evikne]

4 minutes ago, Twest said:

Thanks. I can select grey card under the white balance menu. However it does not give instructions on how to set the data point.

I meant to use the WB pipette in the post processing on your computer at home (requires Lightroom or something similar, and RAW files are recommended) .

Just take a picture of the card as usual, but do nothing more until you come home. It is much easier than fiddling with a smartphone app.

[Good To Be Retired]

7 hours ago, Twest said:

Thanks. I can select grey card under the white balance menu. However it does not give instructions on how to set the data point.

• Try this and see if it does anything useful:
• Setup the phone app on your phone
• Take a photo of a white balance target
• View the photo on the phone app
• Select the White Balance Dropdown Menu on the phone app
• Select the Eyedropper Tool in the Dropdown Menu
• See if it will let you click the photo of the white balance target
• If it doesn't transmit the Eyedropper information to the phone, see if it at least gives you a numerical reading.
• If it gives you a numerical reading, go back to the Dropdown Menu and insert the numerical reading manually.
• Stand on one foot, pat the top of your head, and rub your tummy
• Call Leica Customer Service

[Twest]

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Thank you good. I tried to do this. No joy. Will contact Leica.

 

Evikne, thank you for the reply. Yes, I am currently adjusting WB in post.

[scott kirkpatrick]

Hmmm.  Haven't been down this particular rabbit hole before.  I generally use AWB.  I know others who set a standard daylight value, even indoors.  In both cases, shooting DNG only, the dropper is available in post if needed, but I don't use it often.

So I fired up the M10-D, running firmware 2.7.5.0 (issued for any current M-10 or M10-P), and talked to it over Fotos 2.2.0 for Android.  Went to Settings>Setup>WhiteBalance and chose Gray Card.  Then backed out and into Remote, which told me that White Balance was set to "K".  Incidentally, you can't set that in the Remote set of four or five adjustable settings, where the list of WB options is shorter than the list offered under Setup.

Using Remote, I shot a white sheet of paper on my desk in mixed indoor/outdoor lighting, the paper covering about the center half of the frame.  Then a shot out of the window.  Then in Remote, then back to Auto for my white balance and took another shot out the window.  In C1, the temperature and shift for the grey card shot and the grey-calibrated shot out the window were exactly the same.  The second shot out the window, after switching to AWB, had different color parameters.  So it works.  I imagine that the area that was used to set the grey card color recommendation was the same center-weighted part that I use for exposure.

[Good To Be Retired]

5 hours ago, scott kirkpatrick said:

 

So I fired up the M10-D, running firmware 2.7.5.0 (issued for any current M-10 or M10-P), and talked to it over Fotos 2.2.0 for Android.  Went to Settings>Setup>WhiteBalance and chose Gray Card.  Then backed out and into Remote, which told me that White Balance was set to "K".  Incidentally, you can't set that in the Remote set of four or five adjustable settings, where the list of WB options is shorter than the list offered under Setup.

Using Remote, I shot a white sheet of paper on my desk in mixed indoor/outdoor lighting, the paper covering about the center half of the frame.  Then a shot out of the window.  Then in Remote, then back to Auto for my white balance and took another shot out the window.  In C1, the temperature and shift for the grey card shot and the grey-calibrated shot out the window were exactly the same.  The second shot out the window, after switching to AWB, had different color parameters.  So it works.  I imagine that the area that was used to set the grey card color recommendation was the same center-weighted part that I use for exposure.

Thanx for posting this.  Not having this particular body myself, but possessing a reasonable quantity of curiosity, I'm pleased to get good information instead of my own speculation.

The operation seem to be somewhat like what I had suspected, which is to say sorta complex   Perhaps you're old enough to remember a famous cartoonist named Rube Goldberg, who designed suchlike procedures.  

What surprises me however is the apparent lack of documentation.

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Edited November 5, 2020 by Good To Be Retired

[Twest]

Thank you for that explanation and experimentation!