Dennis Posted January 25, 2021 Author Share #21  Posted January 25, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 8/23/2020 at 8:44 AM, ckuwajima said: This is the view from a M4 with Summilux-M Pre-Asph set at infinite. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Wow, only 35mm frame lines look so good. I would love to cover the 135mm lines and leave 35 + focus patch only. One day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ckuwajima Posted January 25, 2021 Share #22  Posted January 25, 2021 27 minutes ago, Dennis said: Wow, only 35mm frame lines look so good. I would love to cover the 135mm lines and leave 35 + focus patch only. One day Actually M4 have 135mm framelines, but they are small (only the 4 frame corners) and very faint (at least on my camera). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted January 25, 2021 Author Share #23  Posted January 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, ckuwajima said: Actually M4 have 135mm framelines, but they are small (only the 4 frame corners) and very faint (at least on my camera). I didn't see it. Now yes, I did. Very small and unobtrusive. Love it. If one uses mostly 35FL, w/ doubt the 135 frame lines are in the way. One day, I'll probably buy one M film camera a la carte. Or I will find someone taping my frame lines on my M10 😎 I know it's not easy, nut possible   Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Prime Posted January 25, 2021 Share #24  Posted January 25, 2021 a version 1 of the nokton, no hood but with lens cap. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/312534-35mm-lenses-vf-blockage-whats-your-view/?do=findComment&comment=4125395'>More sharing options...
wojtek_87 Posted February 15, 2021 Share #25  Posted February 15, 2021 My Nokton 35 f/1.2 V2 with no hood - a bit problematic to compose or anticipate but I am the guy who observe with left eye so can deal with it... Might be helpful for someone who thinks about buying Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/312534-35mm-lenses-vf-blockage-whats-your-view/?do=findComment&comment=4141939'>More sharing options...
Dennis Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share #26  Posted February 16, 2021 8 hours ago, wojtek_87 said: My Nokton 35 f/1.2 V2 with no hood It's big, but not so bad. I heard it's a great modern lens ... Some prefer v2 because less sharp. 8 hours ago, wojtek_87 said: Might be helpful for someone who thinks about buying Yes it is, this is what the thread is about. To collect more OVF views as possible. Thanks for sharing  1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommonego@gmail.com Posted February 16, 2021 Share #27 Â Posted February 16, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) My 35 Pre Asph Summilux is invisible without the shade, put the shade on and there is minimal blockage on my M3 (M4 viewfinder). No choice to put a filter on it as the shade holds the filter. I have had the lens for years and I barely noticed it. Didn't like my viewfinder images. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
easy_action Posted February 17, 2021 Share #28  Posted February 17, 2021 35mm Summarit f/2.5 at infinity, with and without 3rd party vented hood Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Voigtlander 35mm Nokton f/1.2 v3, at infinity  1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Voigtlander 35mm Nokton f/1.2 v3, at infinity  ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/312534-35mm-lenses-vf-blockage-whats-your-view/?do=findComment&comment=4143038'>More sharing options...
pippy Posted February 18, 2021 Share #29 Â Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) With my (admittedly both Ancient and Slow) non-goggled 1954 35mm f3.5 Summaron-M there is absolutely no finder cut-off whatsoever when there is no hood used at any focussing distance. With my lens I use a 12585 vented hood and the cut-off is still (almost) nil. Slight arc of edge of hood is about as bad as it gets. The actual lens never intrudes. The upside - for me - to the Ancient and Slow bit is that I get really beautiful rendering with rectilinear results from an incredibly tiny lens which is almost never used with apertures faster than f5.6 in any case so the 'slow' f3.5 isn't an issue for me. I'm pretty sure I will be amongst a tiny minority of Leica-M users who own no other 35mm M-mount lens than the f3.5 Summaron. I'm not a huge fan of the 35mm f/l. Sorry if that didn't help one little bit, Dennis! Philip. Edited February 18, 2021 by pippy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share #30  Posted February 18, 2021 42 minutes ago, pippy said: Sorry if that didn't help one little bit, Dennis! You helped a lot. Look what you just said 43 minutes ago, pippy said: I'm pretty sure I will be amongst a tiny minority of Leica-M users who own no other 35mm M-mount lens than the f3.5 Summaron. It's a fantastic statement 🙂  1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share #31  Posted February 18, 2021 13 hours ago, easy_action said: 35mm Summarit f/2.5 at infinity, with and without 3rd party vented hood It's a very light blockage, very helpful for composition. 13 hours ago, easy_action said: Voigtlander 35mm Nokton f/1.2 v3, at infinity Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Just wonder if the blockage it would be similar on the new release CV 35/2 Apo ... similar size/dimension? No hood here, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
easy_action Posted February 18, 2021 Share #32  Posted February 18, 2021 17 hours ago, Dennis said: No hood here, right? Correct, no hood on the lens. And yes I love the Summarit for it's minimal vf blockage. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
easy_action Posted February 18, 2021 Share #33 Â Posted February 18, 2021 In this respect the tapered design of the f/2.5 Summarit seems to be better than it's replacement the f/2.4 lens, whose body is a similar diameter at either end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share #34  Posted February 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, Al Brown said: (But seriously, I do not even see that lower right corner of the hood anymore. No bother whatsoever.) agree. Yesterday I tried for the first time with a big lens to shoot in vertical, and I was horrified. I quickly changed my mind 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted February 18, 2021 Share #35  Posted February 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, Dennis said: agree. Yesterday I tried for the first time with a big lens to shoot in vertical, and I was horrified. I quickly changed my mind 🙂 Good thing when framing vertical, we can choose left-bottom or right-top. Had you tried the two choices Dennis ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share #36 Â Posted February 18, 2021 35 minutes ago, a.noctilux said: Good thing when framing vertical, we can choose left-bottom or right-top. Had you tried the two choices Dennis ? Yes, both. Coming form SLRÂ like Nikon FM, the film lever almost "must" to be on top, right? It's the right way. With my M10, I feel the same. The contrary it feels unnatural IMHOÂ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted February 18, 2021 Share #37 Â Posted February 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Dennis said: Yes, both. Coming form SLRÂ like Nikon FM, the film lever almost "must" to be on top, right? It's the right way. With my M10, I feel the same. The contrary it feels unnatural IMHOÂ Oddly enough this last point brings up an earlier discussion we were having over in the 'One Aperture' thread where night-time snaps / slow shutter speeds were mentioned. Although the way you (and Arnaud) describe holding the camera is the 'normal' being, as it usualy found to be, the most comfortable and convenient option there is much to back up the idea that the 'converse' is most useful when slow speeds are required as the photographer can use his/her forehead and nose as a steadying / bracing point when holding the body of the camera against them. 'T'was thus that I held the camera the other night. Like (almost) everyone else I adopt the 'normal' method...erm...normally but when slow speeds are required I generally go 'Converse'. Give it a go; you might not like the experience but you might like the end results! Philip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share #38  Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, pippy said: Oddly enough this last point brings up an earlier discussion we were having over in the 'One Aperture' thread where night-time snaps / slow shutter speeds were mentioned. Although the way you (and Arnaud) describe holding the camera is the 'normal' being, as it usualy found to be, the most comfortable and convenient option there is much to back up the idea that the 'converse' is most useful when slow speeds are required as the photographer can use his/her forehead and nose as a steadying / bracing point when holding the body of the camera against them. 'T'was thus that I held the camera the other night. Like (almost) everyone else I adopt the 'normal' method...erm...normally but when slow speeds are required I generally go 'Converse'. Give it a go; you might not like the experience but you might like the end results! Philip. Awesome, it totally makes sense Philip, thank you! I have to try. Because I shoot vertical only when it's very needed. Let's say when documenting, with an M, 97% could easily be horizontal orientation. When it's an assignment or general work, I don't use yet a Leica so with DSLR is easy. But i'll definitely try this. Actually I'm sure i tried it already, couple of times. But it didn't catch me. This time, I'll do it with conscience 🙂 Edited February 18, 2021 by Dennis 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted February 18, 2021 Share #39  Posted February 18, 2021 Vertical framing is not natural, but in some situations, we "gain" 50% of length/wide when tight framing 🙃. Dennis, try also triggering with thumb for better grip. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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