timbedsted1234 Posted August 11, 2006 Share #1 Posted August 11, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello I just bought a Nikon Coolscan 5000 scanner from Cametaauctions. I then received a second chance offer for a scanner for which I was outbid. Now I am becoming worried I am being taken for a ride:( Does anyone have good/bad experience with Cametaauctions? Should I report the second chance offer to Ebay? Regards, TIm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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marknorton Posted August 11, 2006 Share #2 Posted August 11, 2006 Never dealt with them, boy do they sell a bunch of stuff! Their feedback rating is very good and a huge number of items sold, so providing you only stay within the ebay transaction you actually won, I would have thought you'd be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
humanized_form Posted August 11, 2006 Share #3 Posted August 11, 2006 the only scam would probably be the "second chance offer". beware of that offer and follow through with the auction you won. you should be fine. i recently sold a bunch of stuff on ebay (getting my M8 funded ya know) and from my experience there are lots of bogus emails being generated within the ebay system. i had ebay members saying i sent them emails i never sent them, i received bogus "second chance offers" etc... be careful and be smart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
budrichard Posted August 11, 2006 Share #4 Posted August 11, 2006 Purchased NIB Nikon motor Drive MD12 with NO problems from Camettaauctions. the second chance offer as already stated is the 'SCAM'!-Dick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbedsted1234 Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share #5 Posted August 11, 2006 Thanks guys, I feel a lot more comfortable now. I will stay away from the second chance offer and go with Camettaauctions. Cheers, Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uulrich Posted August 11, 2006 Share #6 Posted August 11, 2006 Hi, cameraauctions seems to be fine to me. I assume the 2nd chance offer got hijacked somehow. You can find this out if you view the entire header of the suspect email, usually in an options dialog, depending on the clinet software you use of course. You should not paste the email header into this forum for valuation as it contains your email address as well. If still in doubt I offer you to have a glance at it if you send it as a private message. I don't know if I am qualified for this but so far I have had some good luck with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_oneal Posted August 11, 2006 Share #7 Posted August 11, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Although I have never dealt with cametaauctions, I have dealt with Cameta Camera with total satisfaction. Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted August 11, 2006 Share #8 Posted August 11, 2006 Cameta is great. I got my Olympus E-300 at a bargain price from them guys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rubidium Posted August 11, 2006 Share #9 Posted August 11, 2006 About a week ago, I encountered a similar experience with receiving a "second-chance offer" for an auction in which I was outbid. Since there were 7 higher bidders than me, I became suspicious of being the "lucky" guy being given the second chance. Wisely, I contacted the original owner of the item via eBay, and sure enough, he had made no such second-chance offer. It appears that this "second-chance offer" stuff is a growing scam hitting eBay. Several things should tip you off to a scam: 1. If the "second-chance offer" you receive by email does not also appear in MyMessages when you log in to eBay using your username and password, then it is definately not legitimate. eBay clearly states that genuine "second-chance offers" will appear in your private mailbox on their web site. 2. If the email you receive asks you to contact the sender directly to close the deal. 3. If the email contains obvious spelling or grammatical errors. Finally, never get involved in "second-chance offers" without first logging in to the eBay site and sending a inquiry in the form of a private message to the item's owner listed in the original auction. What concerns me most about these scams is the fact that the scammers somehow have gotten into the eBay system and obtained your email address. Be safe ... Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uulrich Posted August 11, 2006 Share #10 Posted August 11, 2006 Hi, to judge if 'C*' is a great seller or not is not the issue here. Discussing feedback of eBay members is beyond this forum, IMHO. The question is if you got a scam email from a hijacker or not. Have you? If you are in doubt I can recommend to contact eBay or send a private message to me and I try to give some advice. If you already accepted it and went through the checkout procedure and paid to the wrong person is the matter here. Those who want to discuss feedback score of particular members of the eBay community to eliminate risks of scam have not an idea how scam works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uulrich Posted August 11, 2006 Share #11 Posted August 11, 2006 Hi Tim, Jim's right. Good wording I would say. :-) Thanks Jim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leica_mage Posted August 11, 2006 Share #12 Posted August 11, 2006 Cameta are super. In my SLR days, I purchased a lens from them. Brand new and much cheaper than anywhere else. And they were fast, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted August 11, 2006 Share #13 Posted August 11, 2006 It is possible that the second chance offer didn't come from Cameta by the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbedsted1234 Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share #14 Posted August 11, 2006 About a week ago, I encountered a similar experience with receiving a "second-chance offer" for an auction in which I was outbid. Since there were 7 higher bidders than me, I became suspicious of being the "lucky" guy being given the second chance. Wisely, I contacted the original owner of the item via eBay, and sure enough, he had made no such second-chance offer. It appears that this "second-chance offer" stuff is a growing scam hitting eBay. Several things should tip you off to a scam: 1. If the "second-chance offer" you receive by email does not also appear in MyMessages when you log in to eBay using your username and password, then it is definately not legitimate. eBay clearly states that genuine "second-chance offers" will appear in your private mailbox on their web site. 2. If the email you receive asks you to contact the sender directly to close the deal. 3. If the email contains obvious spelling or grammatical errors. Finally, never get involved in "second-chance offers" without first logging in to the eBay site and sending a inquiry in the form of a private message to the item's owner listed in the original auction. What concerns me most about these scams is the fact that the scammers somehow have gotten into the eBay system and obtained your email address. Be safe ... Jim Jim, That is what I am also finding hard to accept. I mean if they can figure that out might they also be able to get hold of my payments details, such I thing could ruin your entire afternoon:rolleyes: Cheers, Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubice Posted August 11, 2006 Share #15 Posted August 11, 2006 Jim, That is what I am also finding hard to accept. I mean if they can figure that out might they also be able to get hold of my payments details, such I thing could ruin your entire afternoon:rolleyes: Cheers, Tim Jim and Tim, nobody can obtain your passwords, payment details, Credit Card details etc, unless YOU give it to them. There is no way that somebody can ‘get into the eBay system’ and obtain your email address (at least not yet…). The only way somebody can get your email address through eBay is via a direct contact through the eBay messaging system, or by sending you an innocent ‘Question for Seller’. Before I reply to any of these messages, I always check the identity of the contact, what they purchased/sold in the past and if their query makes sense. If somebody who has 20 positive feedbacks because they sold twenty items for 50 cents each is asking me about a Leica M6 I happen to be selling, my antennas go up. I will only reply to these messages through the eBay messaging, without providing my email address in the reply - you can specify that in your reply. Also, always check if the ‘Question from an eBay Member’ that arrived into your Outlook mailbox is also in your “My eBay’ Messages folder. If it is not in your eBay Messages, it is a fake. Also, all communications from eBay will address you by your name, not by ‘Dear eBay Member’ etc. I believe that the “Second Chance Offer’ Tim received was sent after his email address was obtained by asking him an ‘innocent’ question through eBay. All the best, Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandokan Posted August 12, 2006 Share #16 Posted August 12, 2006 I only started using eBay a few weeks ago and have also been targeted by this scam. As The Alkali Doctor (Jim) wrote, real Second Chance Offers come via eBay and appear in your "Items You Did Not Win" "Second Chance Offers" - otherwise scammers are just picking up the list of non-winning bidders and emailing them via eBay, with what looks like an authentic email. So if it comes as an email and does not appear in your My eBay account as an offer, then it is a scam (especially as now they say "please contact by this email address...". Anyway, I tracked down the originating source IP address of the email (helps to work in IT) and passed on details to the local country police and eBay. There is also another scam at the moment, from people based out of Hong Kong or China. there are numerous photo equipments posted for sale with no reserve price and only 12-18 hours before bidding closes. They are easy to spot as the photos of the items are stock shots against a white background and all the feedback comes from newly registered people and are for sale items of RMB15 or less (a few dollars). So - if it is too good to be true, its too good to be true! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicamann Posted August 13, 2006 Share #17 Posted August 13, 2006 We have dealt with Cameta Auctions many , many times. I found the quality and service excellent. In fact most of the Ebay Camera stores are very good , but I find you really have to shop. The one I avoid the most is this dude who lists all this Leica gear coming from Nurenburg..many times the bidding was "private" and unlisted..I don't like that at all. Regards , Leica Mann:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted August 13, 2006 Share #18 Posted August 13, 2006 ebay has lost its sparkle and bargain items( fewer and fewer appear), too many players that are knowledgeable in product pricing and quite astute in trading. It has come a long way from the garage style that persisted at the beginning, Why leave items in your will when you can hock it yourself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleeson Posted August 13, 2006 Share #19 Posted August 13, 2006 Cametaauctions is fine, I bought a Nikon 9000 from them, USA warranty, $100 less than other online sellers. I have been on ebay longer than about anyone else I've seen(1997) and would second the cautions - I'd never respond to a second-chance offer from anyone --I think most of them are fake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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