KJB Posted August 12, 2007 Share #21 Posted August 12, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm thinking of picking up an Oly E-510 DSLR & 14-54mm lens. Great colors, good glass, and it has in body image stabilization. Love the M8 but sometimes AF can be useful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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j. borger Posted August 12, 2007 Share #22 Posted August 12, 2007 R-D1 .............still a very capable rangefinder..... but i never needed the backup (except for the 2 weeks the M8 was in Solms for "the fix").... so it sits unused on the shelf for almost a year now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted August 12, 2007 Share #23 Posted August 12, 2007 I love the idea of the Olympus cameras. My first serious camera was an OM2n. However, I do not love the small viewfinders on the 4/3 system cameras. I wish they would fix that via increased magnification or something. Olympus also made a mistake in hindsight of making the sensor-to-flange distance too large, which means large lenses. With that small a sensor, they could have had a much smaller distance, and very compact lenses, more like the M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HetDraakje Posted August 12, 2007 Share #24 Posted August 12, 2007 What do you guys think of the V-Lux1 as a back-up, and primary if you really need the tele-reach (420 vs 170 maximal 35 mm equivalent (135 on M8))? Boen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 12, 2007 Share #25 Posted August 12, 2007 Now that I have lost my digital Canon Ixus 850is back-up to my son, my current back-ups are Leica IIF and/or Minox C. The Minox is becoming a bit of a dead loss as I cannot find anyone who develops B&W film for it now and I have to buy the film mail order from the UK when in France. 8 X 11 labs who used to offer an excellent postal service, now only do colour. There was someone in the UK in Hampshire, who I have used once, it was expensive, took 4 weeks and was rubbish. Anyone know anyone who develops and prints 8 x 11 mm B&W film? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielt Posted August 12, 2007 Share #26 Posted August 12, 2007 As backup I think that a second M8 body i the best option. My traveling equipment is composed by M8 + TriElmar 28-35-50 and a second M8 with Elmarit 90/2.8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted August 12, 2007 Share #27 Posted August 12, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I love the idea of the Olympus cameras. My first serious camera was an OM2n. However, I do not love the small viewfinders on the 4/3 system cameras. I wish they would fix that via increased magnification or something. Olympus also made a mistake in hindsight of making the sensor-to-flange distance too large, which means large lenses. With that small a sensor, they could have had a much smaller distance, and very compact lenses, more like the M. Agree about the viewfinder but you do have AF so VF brightness may not be as critical as with MF systems. On the size of the 4/3 lenses they could be smaller but they are surprisingly light; perhaps the near equivalent of the M lenses in weight. What really attracts me to the latest Oly 410/510 is that it's output looks the most "Leicalike" in colors and tonality than what I've seen from other manufacturers like Canon and Nikon. Really itching to give the 510 a try as a backup to the M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlancasterd Posted August 12, 2007 Share #28 Posted August 12, 2007 What do/would you use as a backup for your M8? R8/DMR plus 28-90 and/or 21/35 Vario-Emar(it). Worked very well on a recent tour of southern Germany & Austria. I also have a Voigtlander Bessa R3a with a Nokton 40mm that I use when I don't want to risk one of my Leicas in a harsh environment (eg the hot, cramped, gritty, footplate of a working steam locomotive) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fursan Posted August 12, 2007 Author Share #29 Posted August 12, 2007 Thank you all folks. Time to ponder. Impulse says M8. Logic dictates M8. Should I be impulsive or logical? Best regards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gid Posted August 12, 2007 Share #30 Posted August 12, 2007 My back up is my Epson RD1. Occasionally I just take the RD1 out - its still a good camera. IQ is as good as the M8 in prints up to 18 x 12 - don't shout at me I've done lots of experiments - blind tests with other observers - mind you my eyes might be failing . Ultimately, the best back up is another M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Mondello Posted August 12, 2007 Share #31 Posted August 12, 2007 Epson R-D1 and Nikon D200. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tummydoc Posted August 12, 2007 Share #32 Posted August 12, 2007 I went through 2 defective M8s to get the third that's so far working. I don't yet trust it nor would I trust a second one to backup the first. Since I am an amateur and film is still available, I tuck a film Leica and a few 36-exp C-41 films in the bag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_Flesher Posted August 14, 2007 Share #33 Posted August 14, 2007 Thank you all folks. Time to ponder. Impulse says M8. Logic dictates M8. Should I be impulsive or logical? Best regards. Oh dangit..... It's imulsive AND logical. I guess it's the right answer then for me too. sheeeesh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fursan Posted August 14, 2007 Author Share #34 Posted August 14, 2007 jack, you know you are going to get it. so do it...now. Best. Oh dangit..... It's imulsive AND logical. I guess it's the right answer then for me too. sheeeesh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_hughes Posted August 14, 2007 Share #35 Posted August 14, 2007 What do you guys think of the V-Lux1 as a back-up, and primary if you really need the tele-reach (420 vs 170 maximal 35 mm equivalent (135 on M8))? Boen Boen, The V-LUX 1 is actually quite an impressive camera. As you noted it has a great reach (at least on the end) and I've been able to get some very nice images shooting RAW. The IS works very well too. You need to stay as close to the lowest ISO as you can, obviously, but it handles very well. I had the Panny FZ50 before and had sold it and when we got the V-LUX for my wife, I did see a noticeable difference (better) in the how the firmware processes the jpegs (which is what she shoots.) Cheers, Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Sprow Posted August 14, 2007 Share #36 Posted August 14, 2007 Unless going out really light, I always have my M7 (with 28mm Asph. Elmarit) mounted, along with the M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 14, 2007 Share #37 Posted August 14, 2007 Boen, The V-LUX 1 is actually quite an impressive camera. As you noted it has a great reach (at least on the end) and I've been able to get some very nice images shooting RAW. The IS works very well too. You need to stay as close to the lowest ISO as you can, obviously, but it handles very well. I had the Panny FZ50 before and had sold it and when we got the V-LUX for my wife, I did see a noticeable difference (better) in the how the firmware processes the jpegs (which is what she shoots.) Cheers, Simon Panasonic seem to have a real problem with noise on their sensors. I and the family have had various Leica/Panas (D1, D2, Dlux1) or just Panasonics (FX8) and they have all had a noise problem to a greater or lesser degree. They have all broken down as well, some more than once. The noise on my wife's DLux 1 is dreadful at anything over 200ISO. Sony and Canon seem to do a better job in this respect. That amongst other things, put me off a Digilux 3. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wstotler Posted August 14, 2007 Share #38 Posted August 14, 2007 What do/would you use as a backup for your M8? I asked a similar question and decided on an used M6TTL (near mint) that was reasonably priced (compared to the M8) so I could use my M lenses. You can find that thread here if you'd like to see some more advice about things to consider: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/digital-forum/16541-backup-m8-appropriate-used-film-m.html Good luck with your selection. --Will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_Flesher Posted August 14, 2007 Share #39 Posted August 14, 2007 jack, you know you are going to get it. so do it...now. Already done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fursan Posted August 14, 2007 Author Share #40 Posted August 14, 2007 Congratulations. Enjoy it in good health and happiness. Best Already done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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