Schittra Posted February 9, 2020 Share #1  Posted February 9, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) Please call me dump. I have not in Leica market for 5 years and just back. I learn Leica SL2 is considerately less expensive than M10. Considering betted specification, how so? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joakim Posted February 9, 2020 Share #2 Â Posted February 9, 2020 No you are not correct, are you sure you are comparing with M10 and not one of the special versions like M10-P or the Monochrom or the M-D? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schittra Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share #3 Â Posted February 9, 2020 M10 $7,995 SL2 $5,995 Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 9, 2020 Share #4 Â Posted February 9, 2020 Far more simple to build, off-the-shelf components (mainly Panasonic), less expensive mechanical components; the rangefinder unit alone costs far more than 1000 Euro, for instance. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schittra Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share #5 Â Posted February 9, 2020 Thanks a lot. I can feel different when I hold my M6 and SL2. Getting older, I am thinking about autofocus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joakim Posted February 9, 2020 Share #6  Posted February 9, 2020 I just realized that M10 are a bit more expensive here in Sweden but it’s more like 15% and not 30% which I agree is significantly more expensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted February 9, 2020 Share #7 Â Posted February 9, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) I would not assume that the selling price is directly linked to the cost of manufacture. That being said, the M rangefinder is much more difficult to build than any part of the SL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted February 9, 2020 Share #8  Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) The M has no real direct competition, so Leica can afford to push margins.  The SL2, however, plays in a competitive segment, which is more price sensitive.  I’m sure Leica would like to charge more if they could.  The S system is stuck, in part, since lower priced competition ruined what once seemed to be an open market... then Pentax, Fuji and Hasselblad changed the dynamics.  At some point, even Leica can’t march just to its own drum beat. David Farkas seems to agree... https://www.reddotforum.com/content/2017/07/leica-drop-price-sl-body/ Jeff Edited February 9, 2020 by Jeff S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 9, 2020 Share #9 Â Posted February 9, 2020 1 hour ago, BernardC said: I would not assume that the selling price is directly linked to the cost of manufacture. That being said, the M rangefinder is much more difficult to build than any part of the SL. I would imagine that the building price puts a bottom on the selling price 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted February 9, 2020 Share #10  Posted February 9, 2020 2 hours ago, jaapv said: I would imagine that the building price puts a bottom on the selling price But I imagine that various build decisions were made with end price point in mind... competition... see above. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 9, 2020 Share #11 Â Posted February 9, 2020 Of course - but things like expensive rangefinder building and top plate machining out of brass cannot be designed more cheaply, let alone custom electronics to cram into an M body. The SL has far more potential in this respect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow Posted February 10, 2020 Share #12  Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) The M camera was initially designed to host a roll of film. The SL is designed to natively host a sensor and electronics. Edited February 10, 2020 by Arrow 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailwagger Posted February 10, 2020 Share #13  Posted February 10, 2020 On 2/9/2020 at 10:08 AM, jaapv said: I would imagine that the building price puts a bottom on the selling price True, but it doesn't set the top. IIRC the original asking price of the M10 was around $6400 US. Unlike virtually every other camera in the universe, the price of a new M tends to go up over time, even as the underlying technology ages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted February 10, 2020 Share #14 Â Posted February 10, 2020 Indeed, they do it with the M because they can; with the SL, they cannot. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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