didier Posted February 2, 2020 Share #1 Posted February 2, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) I got a M10M on Friday. I am more than happy... I sold my M(240) a few weeks ago as I used my SL most with M-lenses... what a pleasure to come back to the initial M form Factor... and that amazing shutter !! first pics look very promising, even OOC. I was surprised to see my first pic with the camera had number 261 The camera looks new but i find a little abnormal it has 260 shots ? What do you think ? Thanks for sharing your experience and opinion ! didier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chaemono Posted February 2, 2020 Share #2 Posted February 2, 2020 vor 1 Stunde schrieb didier: I got a M10M on Friday. I am more than happy... I sold my M(240) a few weeks ago as I used my SL most with M-lenses... what a pleasure to come back to the initial M form Factor... and that amazing shutter !! first pics look very promising, even OOC. I was surprised to see my first pic with the camera had number 261 The camera looks new but i find a little abnormal it has 260 shots ? What do you think ? Thanks for sharing your experience and opinion ! didier I think you should reset the count to zero and pretend you never saw the 261 number. 😂 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
didier Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted February 2, 2020 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted February 2, 2020 Share #4 Posted February 2, 2020 What's the shutter count? File numbers aren't the same. In any case Leica test them (apparently) so that they know all functions work and the rangefinder is aligned as it should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anika Posted February 3, 2020 Share #5 Posted February 3, 2020 15 hours ago, didier said: I was surprised to see my first pic with the camera had number 261 The camera looks new but i find a little abnormal it has 260 shots ? What do you think ? Thanks for sharing your experience and opinion ! Use a new SD card (or format it) - if you had any!!! pictures on the card, the camera will start with the last number saved on it +1 You will have to reset the file numbers though.... a Leica remembers the last number Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted February 4, 2020 Share #6 Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) @didier When an M camera leaves the production facility in Wetzlar, it does not have a shutter count of 0000. None of them ever do. Leica gives each camera a bit of a shakedown cruise, which accounts for the shutter count of 261 on your M10 Monochrome. That may sound like a lot of shots for a final function check before shipping the camera, but I read somewhere that every new M camera leaves Wetzlar with a shutter actuation count of 200-300. It's very much like when you buy a new car that has 20 or 30 miles on it. A digital M camera will easily go for 250,000 or more exposures before the shutter will need to be replaced. 261 actuations is a drop in the bucket and nothing to fret about in the least. Yes, your M10M is new - it's not a used camera or a demo unit, unless it was specified as such by your Leica dealer. Edited February 4, 2020 by Herr Barnack 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
didier Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share #7 Posted February 4, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks for your answer HerrBarnack. i have no worries about it being new but was interested in understanding the 260 shots. i just love that camera. I did wait a long time before going digital. I enjoyed my M(240) but I missed the pure and simple pleasure of my analog Ms. I am close to it now 😋 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkmoore Posted February 4, 2020 Share #8 Posted February 4, 2020 The store was probably playing with the camera or letting other customers play with it to help sell more. This happens a lot. I typically look for a unit that has the white half circle stickers closing the outer tan box. If the outer box was closed using scotch tape it had been opened and used as described above. This is to be expected when stores are only getting a couple of units at a time. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkmoore Posted February 4, 2020 Share #9 Posted February 4, 2020 11 hours ago, Herr Barnack said: @didier When an M camera leaves the production facility in Wetzlar, it does not have a shutter count of 0000. None of them ever do. Leica gives each camera a bit of a shakedown cruise, which accounts for the shutter count of 261 on your M10 Monochrome. That may sound like a lot of shots for a final function check before shipping the camera, but I read somewhere that every new M camera leaves Wetzlar with a shutter actuation count of 200-300. It's very much like when you buy a new car that has 20 or 30 miles on it. A digital M camera will easily go for 250,000 or more exposures before the shutter will need to be replaced. 261 actuations is a drop in the bucket and nothing to fret about in the least. Yes, your M10M is new - it's not a used camera or a demo unit, unless it was specified as such by your Leica dealer. To add to this, when the distribution points receive their cameras, they open a few cameras and test them to ensure they were safely shipped. Leica USA does this spot check before sending cameras to the dealers in case a shipment was mishandled from Germany. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted February 4, 2020 Share #10 Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, didier said: Thanks for your answer HerrBarnack. i have no worries about it being new but was interested in understanding the 260 shots. i just love that camera. I did wait a long time before going digital. I enjoyed my M(240) but I missed the pure and simple pleasure of my analog Ms. I am close to it now 😋 I also resisted digital until Leica dropped the M240 on us. When we finally had a 24x36mm sensor and 24 megapixels, I thought, "Okay, now we're getting somewhere." I too love the M10 Monochrom - in my view, it is the Stradivarius of cameras. I'm counting the days (more like months, actually) till the FedEx guy hands me mine on my front porch. 😍 Edited February 4, 2020 by Herr Barnack 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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