ron110n Posted August 5, 2007 Share #1 Posted August 5, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I saw some B&W photos at Flickr developed in Pyrocat-HD. I must admit that it's popping my eye and dropping my jaw. Right now, I am lusting for one "but where can I buy one" I am US / Los Angeles based and my nextdoor neighbor Freestyle Photographic don't seem to carry it. I will also appriciate some Vendor links for SPUR Developer -Ron ________________ Caveman's Gallery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 Hi ron110n, Take a look here Pyrocat-HD US Vendor. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
ron110n Posted August 5, 2007 Author Share #2 Posted August 5, 2007 I see now... You don't buy one... you make one. Here's the link that I found. Testing Pyrocat-HD Now Freestyle has all the ingredients. -Ron ________________ Caveman's Gallery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotohuis Posted August 6, 2007 Share #3 Posted August 6, 2007 Photographic chemicals, photo chemistry, photo processing equipment, photo chemicals SPUR will be a problem due to the fact they have no US distributor. In that case you can do a direct order but it's slow in transpost (sea-post) and expensive for int. packages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotohuis Posted August 6, 2007 Share #4 Posted August 6, 2007 Some more pyrocat-HD examples: Fotohuis RoVo's Gallery - Rollei Infra Red Roll film Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted August 6, 2007 Share #5 Posted August 6, 2007 Send Mike at Artcraft an email. He'll measure the stuff up for you and sell you a kit (saves a lot of hazzle): Artcraft Chemicals - Your Photographic Chemical Supply Source I did this when I tested 510-Pyro. This was the first time I'd brewed my own. 510 is very easy to work with and highly recommended. I've used it with a range of films and have been very happy with the results. Negs souped in 510 scans well. - Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron110n Posted August 7, 2007 Author Share #6 Posted August 7, 2007 Hello Robert, Those are nice samples in your gallery. Is that a 92 Infra red? I want to try the Pyrocat-HD in a Fortepan 400. Of course Bergger and Fomapan too! Hi Carl, I saw some 510-Pyro samples at Flickr. Very good shadow detail and pretty sharp. I'm going to try that too... Thanks guys for the exotic developer link! For those of us with exotic tatste... -Ron ________________ Caveman's Gallery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotohuis Posted August 7, 2007 Share #7 Posted August 7, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Rollei IR 820/400 on 120 roll film with a Hoya 72R (720nm) filter. But compared with Tanol (Moersch) about the same results. The problem is always the more or less easy access to all materials which is different in Europa and the USA for some brands. Best regards, Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boilerdoc Posted August 7, 2007 Share #8 Posted August 7, 2007 Photographer's Formulary in Condin, Montana carries the Pyrocat HD. They are the best for all chemistries. I highly recommend them. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron110n Posted August 8, 2007 Author Share #9 Posted August 8, 2007 Thanks a lot for the responses. Now here's a stupid question... 1:1:100 dilution means 1 part A solution + 1 part B solution + 100 parts distilled water. If I want to make 500ml of diluted Pyrocat-HD, that is... 2.5 ml A solution + 2.5 ml B solution + 495 ml Distilled water Or is that 500 ml of distilled water Does that make sense??? Please correct my math. -Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotohuis Posted August 8, 2007 Share #10 Posted August 8, 2007 5ml + 5ml + 500ml (total volume 510ml). All very high dilution developers must be made by distilled water because depending of the water quality the buffering (so the pH traject) can be affected. Best regards, Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron110n Posted August 8, 2007 Author Share #11 Posted August 8, 2007 Awesome Robert! Thanks a lot for adding to my knowledge. Pyrocat should be on it's way! Best Regards... -Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Metroman Posted August 8, 2007 Share #12 Posted August 8, 2007 Ron my old brain isn't up to doing the calculations so I use Mike Fiction's dilution calculator spreadsheet that he posted on Flickr: Dilution Calculator The APUG Forum: B&W: Film, Paper, Chemistry has a wealth of knowledge and - for me - is the most useful resource I use on the web. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_peter_m Posted August 8, 2007 Share #13 Posted August 8, 2007 You guys got a lot of good information here...... bit to exotic for me right now but something for down the road Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotohuis Posted August 8, 2007 Share #14 Posted August 8, 2007 If you want to read all info about pyro developers: http://www.moersch-photochemie.de/daten/pdf/TanolundCo.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_peter_m Posted August 9, 2007 Share #15 Posted August 9, 2007 Robert, Thank you for the link, just had a quick look trough there........ that B&W stuff is pretty flexible...lots of choices and a lot of room to come up with your own "look". Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron110n Posted August 9, 2007 Author Share #16 Posted August 9, 2007 Stephen, I missed your post, thanks for the info. Geez so many choices they have at Formulary. Andy, That Excel Calculator just made my developing world "idiot proof" and I could be an idiot sometimes. Just enter your taget and dilution in the black cell, then on the Red Cell... VOLA!!! As I get older sometimes I have to do a deep thinking on "what's one half of nothing". Peter, Glad you enjoyed the thread. This stuff is fun. Results are very unique. Don't forget that Rodinal, R09, Diafine, Acufine, HC110 etc are exotic developers too. Robert, I was thinking of loading from the bulk 10 frames of Delta 400 as an experiment. Digitaltruth says for 35mm, pull down to ISO 320 1:1:100 16min @ 21C "let's see"!!! Then later I'll work on the 120. Best -Ron ________________ Caveman's Gallery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotohuis Posted August 9, 2007 Share #17 Posted August 9, 2007 Yes, experiments with 35mm bulk film are rather cheap and easy to do. I am working in the same way for a new dev. - film combination. Even trying to find out a regular infra red film and developer combination is possible for a few Euro's or US$. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Larbalestier Posted August 17, 2007 Share #18 Posted August 17, 2007 Have you tried Gordon Hutchin's PMK Pyro by any chance? i've used the Pyrocat HD and the PMK Pyro both produce excellent negatives from HP5, FP4, TX 400, Delta 400 and Fuji Acros yeilding very rich prints. two useful links from Ed Buffloe's excellent site Unblinking Eye - photography, darkroom, alt process Pyro Staining Developers Pyrocat-HD, a new phenidone-pyrocatechin staining developer--a useful substitute for PMK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vic Posted August 17, 2007 Share #19 Posted August 17, 2007 hi ron, robert everybody....... just got my first pyro bottles yesterday...... i was speacking with wolfgang moersch and at least in our conversation he recomended me to start with the FINOL ..... (mainly gonna use it with fp4 and hp5 too probably)........ super enthusiastic to try things out especially on 35mm film and see how it is enlarged (darkroom of course)....... inform u or post some stuff on my website........ good luck to u too ron and others if u started to play with it...... ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotohuis Posted August 17, 2007 Share #20 Posted August 17, 2007 I just met Wolfgang Moersch (again) in Bergheim (Germany) with the Leica meeting overthere. Just 'swapped' materials also out on the parking place http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/forumstreffen/27236-forumstreffen-bergheim-koeln-und-umgebung-august-4.html He has a pretty nice line of pyro developers. You can find al info on his above mentioned website. Best regards, Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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