hm1912 Posted August 11, 2006 Share #101 Posted August 11, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) This is a great place for talking photography, not international politics. Has anybody got any experience using Pelican cases? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 11, 2006 Posted August 11, 2006 Hi hm1912, Take a look here OK. So _now_ what do we do with our film and our kit?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
uulrich Posted August 11, 2006 Share #102 Posted August 11, 2006 :-) I got the impression that I got blacklisted by everyone. I can talk developing, film vs. digi or anything else.... :-( They still put global terroism onto the table though I haven't ordered anything. > Has anybody got any experience using Pelican cases? Yes I do. I hv. put some comments about this case into this thread somewhere in my earlier posts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ross Posted August 11, 2006 Share #103 Posted August 11, 2006 Okay, looks like David Alan Harvey got through the checkpoint. He only had one lens and one body to check in! One camera and lens? Was that his preproduction M8 and 35/1.4 Asph? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uulrich Posted August 11, 2006 Share #104 Posted August 11, 2006 So how do we get through the check-in these days...? Is there a extra service available for special valuable goods? When I had a stop over in Manchester they had a small turbo prop aircraft for the remaining passengers who proceeded to fly to Edinburgh. Since the cabin is so tiny attendees ask to hand over cabin luggage while boarding. Perhaps they can raise a similar workflow these days while you check in at the counter. This would allow passengers to immediately pick up the cabin luggage after leaving the aircraft...? I don't know if this will work. Has anyone traveled through UK these days? How was ist? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spylaw4 Posted August 11, 2006 Share #105 Posted August 11, 2006 According to the latest news tonight it would seem that the powers-that-be are now saying that even when the current alert has subsided hand-luggage is still likely to be more restricted than it was before. However the airlines and business will be pressing strongly for relaxation nearer to what we are used to as business people need to use their laptops on flights, and phones after security, and airlines make their money off business class tickets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leica_mage Posted August 11, 2006 Share #106 Posted August 11, 2006 Well, as a lover (but not performer) of music, who performs his music with his M gear, here's what a true musician (read true Leica photographer) does when faced with this restriction: BBC NEWS | Europe | Cabin baggage ban hits musicians Best, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pxlpal2 Posted August 11, 2006 Share #107 Posted August 11, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello Andy, Steve, and Conrad, I don't post much anymore but I hope all is well and that the restrictions will not hinder you too much. We had a location shoot scheduled for Monday, flying from Denver to Corpus Christy Texas, today and have cancelled our flight as I never check the camera or digital backs. We will end up chartering a flight or driving for a day and a half next week and shoot next Thursday. As far as End Times coming and a grand government conspiracy goes, it appears that the yearly forum nutcase has arrived. Pity. Best regards to all, Frank M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted August 11, 2006 Share #108 Posted August 11, 2006 Pity the fools who think nothing happens behind the scenes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pxlpal2 Posted August 11, 2006 Share #109 Posted August 11, 2006 ...do do do do, do do do do...to the tune used by Rod Serling. Regards, Frank M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm1912 Posted August 11, 2006 Share #110 Posted August 11, 2006 Thanks Uwe. I think the best bet would be to have a small Pana-Leica and then get a small Peli case and stow it all in my baggage. Don't know if I can afford it though. I'm not paying for this trip (in terms of travel costs), so I can't really save the money for a future one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicamann Posted August 11, 2006 Share #111 Posted August 11, 2006 Andy..your right..back to photography..if you want to talk politics...if you so feel inclined come on over to our Blog. Regards, Leica Mann:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgcd Posted August 12, 2006 Share #112 Posted August 12, 2006 Hello Andy, Steve, and Conrad,I don't post much anymore but I hope all is well and that the restrictions will not hinder you too much. We had a location shoot scheduled for Monday, flying from Denver to Corpus Christy Texas, today and have cancelled our flight as I never check the camera or digital backs. We will end up chartering a flight or driving for a day and a half next week and shoot next Thursday. As far as End Times coming and a grand government conspiracy goes, it appears that the yearly forum nutcase has arrived. Pity. Best regards to all, Frank M. Hi Frank, Good to hear from you. This is what I fear... I'm scheduled to go to South East Asia through London . I never check my camera gear and I'm not about to start. I hope all is well. Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_dykstra Posted August 12, 2006 Share #113 Posted August 12, 2006 Rather than buying a pelican case, why not pick up a sturdy cardboard box and use bubblewrap or crumpled newspaper to isolate the contents from the sides of the box. Double boxing would work even better. This would be less likely to attract attention and would provide very good protection. Keep the box in your hotel or car for each flight during the journey. We all receive our mail order or eBay parcels this way and they go through more handling than checked luggage, I'd say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted August 12, 2006 Share #114 Posted August 12, 2006 Found this on the NZ aviation security website: <Screening does not harm laptops or other electronic equipment. It is also safe for two screenings of photographic film up to1600asa. Film of any faster speed is usually used only by professional photographers – the 100, 200 or 400 asa films used by holidaymakers is safe to go through screening.> I would expect other airports' X-ray equipment is similar. But it doesn't make it clear if this applies to ghand or hold luggage. I'm off to the U.S. in just over three weeks, via Australia (19 hours plus nine hours waiting time). I'm thinking of just taking my mini Leica. I don't want cameras and lenses worth thousands banging around in the hold; if the mini Leica has to go in the hold, so be it. A worrying aspect is that stringent hand luggage rules are likely to be relaxed, at least to a degree. Which makes you wonder how effective they are in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LKSC Posted August 12, 2006 Share #115 Posted August 12, 2006 Right now, my conundrum is: I am booked to fly out from Melbourne via Singapore, Paris and Barcelona to Morocco. My flight departs 9/11 I have prapared bulk film loaded into plastic casettes to be carried in my clothing pockets, to avoid being xrayed. i guess that won't work now. Erl Erl, if you should need help procuring/ developing film in Singapore let me know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicamann Posted August 12, 2006 Share #116 Posted August 12, 2006 Hello Andy, Steve, and Conrad,I don't post much anymore but I hope all is well and that the restrictions will not hinder you too much. We had a location shoot scheduled for Monday, flying from Denver to Corpus Christy Texas, today and have cancelled our flight as I never check the camera or digital backs. We will end up chartering a flight or driving for a day and a half next week and shoot next Thursday. As far as End Times coming and a grand government conspiracy goes, it appears that the yearly forum nutcase has arrived. Pity. Best regards to all, Frank M. I take that as an insult..nice of you to be so smug...... how little do you know. Guess a day without a "put down" is like a day without sunshine:) Its very easy to be so smug and glib from your place....if you love Rupert Murdock so much then may I suggest you take over "SkyNews " or maybe replace Bill O'Reilly I didn't know we had "shills" on the Leica Forum. Here is a quote from what some people think about this "false flag operation"..for those who really want to read and learn something and THINK In point of fact, the official accounts in Britain of the alleged terror plot lack any specific or verifiable facts and are remarkably short on detail. The statements by American officials are no better when it comes to serious substantiation. They are, however, more detailed in their claims. US Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told a televised news conference that the plot was "a very sophisticated plan and operation" and was close to fruition. "It was not a circle with a handful of people sitting around and dreaming,’’ he said. "They had accumulated the capability necessary and they were well on their way.’’ The plot appeared to have been aimed at US carriers flying out of Heathrow, he continued. It was "international in scope" and suggestive of Al Qaeda. He did not give a specific date for the timing of the plan, but said it may have been before the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. "I can’t tell you they had a particular date in mind," he said. "Nor can I tell you that they would have waited that long. This was quite close to the execution date." Chertoff offered no explanation of how security services knew that a terror attack was imminent when they didn’t know the target date for its execution. This is by no means the only question mark hanging over official accounts. Britain’s Home Secretary Reid gave the impression in his press conference that the evidence prompting the arrests came from the UK, and CNN reported that information gathered after recent arrests in Pakistan convinced British investigators they had to act urgently to stop the plot. However, Britain’s Channel 4 reported that UK authorities had acted based on intelligence provided by the CIA. If Blair was in discussions with Bush over the weekend about an "imminent" terrorist attack, why did he still leave for his holiday in Barbados on Tuesday? And given that the plot is said to have targeted planes, why did the security services allow him to do so? And if the threat posed by the plot was considered dangerous why was the terror alert only raised after the arrests were made and not before? No such questions have been asked by the media. And yet recent months have seen a number of alleged terrorist plots—in the US, Canada and Australia—that were supposedly thwarted by the security services. In each case, mass arrests were made of people who, according to the indictments, had merely discussed terrorist acts. No concrete plans were discovered, no weapons or explosives seized. And in most of these cases, the supposed plots were initiated and encouraged by government informers who acted as agent provocateurs and entrapped the alleged conspirators. As for the political utility of the current terror scare, it should be noted that only hours before Thursday’s raids, British Home Secretary Reid gave a major speech in London in which he accused opponents of the government’s anti-democratic legislation of undermining the "war on terror." In the face of what he called "probably the most sustained period of severe threat since the end of the second world war," Reid decried those who "don’t get it," blaming them for the fact that "we remain unable to adapt our institutions and legal orthodoxy as fast as we need to." Making it clear that the required "adaptation" meant the gutting of traditional democratic rights, he added: "Sometimes we may have to modify some of our own freedoms in the short term in order to prevent their misuse and abuse by those who oppose our fundamental values and would destroy all of our freedoms in the modern world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share #117 Posted August 12, 2006 John I thought we had now agreed that this wasn't the place? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicamann Posted August 12, 2006 Share #118 Posted August 12, 2006 Yes we sure did, but I won't let this person insult me without a rebutal. What right does he have to pass judgement, is he God? Does he know me? Then I think an apology is pressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share #119 Posted August 12, 2006 OK. I started this thread and, admittedly with a post or two from me, it has drifted off from the original intention of my post. For contributing to the drift off-topic I apologise. I think that we have run the course of what to do to keep our kit safe in the hold (or as safe as it can be) and I am sure Mr Pelican is going to have a very good year. One of the great strengths of this forum has always been that the diversity of posters reflects that in global society and we are all the wiser for it. But, when threads on important world events and their direct impact on the way we live our lives start to drift into issues about which many people have very strong feelings, and those are not directly related to Leica and its products, maybe it's time to draw the thread to a conclusion. I would therefore like to close the thread so that we can all move on to something more "on topic". I hope that this is OK with everyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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