Leica M lenses discounted prices

[Ivar B]

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If anyone is looking for Leica M lenses (as well as some other mounts), the Norwegian retailer chain Japan Photo (German owners i believe) is discounting Leica lenses. The Summilux-M 50mm is 2500 Euros including 25 % tax:

https://www.japanphoto.no/leica-summilux-m-f14-50mm-asph-sort

Also, the Summicron-SL 90mm is - 20 %.

I am not absolutely certain that they ship abroad, but if anyone should be around, there are large savings to be made. 

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[jaeger]

I can't read what it says, does it say USED?

[nwphil]

1 hour ago, jaeger said:

I can't read what it says, does it say USED?

if you have google chrome as browser, it'sable to translate for you

- can't see the word used anywhere...but neither brand new

[Ivar B]

16 hours ago, nwphil said:

if you have google chrome as browser, it'sable to translate for you

- can't see the word used anywhere...but neither brand new

It is brand new - this store never sells used equipment. However, it looks like there were many orders yesterday - it is now listed as out of Stock. 

[jaeger]

On 10/19/2019 at 7:15 PM, nwphil said:

if you have google chrome as browser, it'sable to translate for you

- can't see the word used anywhere...but neither brand new

stolen --  lol

[nwphil]

...if someone is looking for a 18 or 21 SE (used) head to FM site 

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1618415

 

pS: not mine btw, but they seem to be good prices

[adan]

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A few points on Leica discounts:

1) About 15 years ago, Leica got very severe with discount pricing, mostly to counteract "gray market" sales from the Far East. Advertise a price below the list price = lose your Leica dealership.

2) However, Leica does offer a very limited number of factory-discounted lenses (and other gear) to dealers. In the US such items are offered as "Code U" (items that have been used by Leica employees/sales reps, or at trade shows and so on) or "QM2" (items that are perfectly functional and warrantied, but have minor defects, usually cosmetic). Although when I worked in the shop, I could never spot the supposed defects, myself. We'd get a call once every few months from our rep offering, say, "two QM2 28 Summicrons"  or "one code-U M-P" for 20% off regular dealer price.

If you get to know your Leica dealer or reps, you can get notifications of these one-off discounted items.

3) Leica has, very rarely, made reductions in the listed prices, per market area or country, if there are large currency fluctuations. I.E. if the Euro is especially weak, the official dollar prices in the US may be lowered to remain competitive with Euro pricing so that Leica USA maintains its sales. (So long as the Mother Ship gets its €4500 net per 35 Summilux ASPH, it doesn't care if that equates to $5300 or $4900 US). Last happened during the Great Recession.

4) At one time, pre-Great Recession, Leica Boutiques and the digital age, Leica would hold "Leica Day" demos at dealerships - and there would often be incentive discounts for new items bought or ordered that day. Generally 5-10%. Get a new $1995 M6 body for $1795.

5) Dealers who are getting out of the Leica line anyway can, of course, simply sell off their remaining new stock at any price they wish. Additionally, stock of new-but-discontinued items removed from the official price list can be sold at any price the dealer chooses. My first "new" M lens was a 21 Elmarit pre-ASPH, bought at dealer cost ($1395, in 2001) four years after it was discontinued in favor of the 21 Elmarit ASPH. And, of course, dealers can offer their own "demo" lenses - open-box items that have been displayed in the store, or returned after very brief use, no warranty registration, and in "like-new" condition.

 

[Ivar B]

1 hour ago, adan said:

A few points on Leica discounts:

1) About 15 years ago, Leica got very severe with discount pricing, mostly to counteract "gray market" sales from the Far East. Advertise a price below the list price = lose your Leica dealership.

2) However, Leica does offer a very limited number of factory-discounted lenses (and other gear) to dealers. In the US such items are offered as "Code U" (items that have been used by Leica employees/sales reps, or at trade shows and so on) or "QM2" (items that are perfectly functional and warrantied, but have minor defects, usually cosmetic). Although when I worked in the shop, I could never spot the supposed defects, myself. We'd get a call once every few months from our rep offering, say, "two QM2 28 Summicrons"  or "one code-U M-P" for 20% off regular dealer price.

If you get to know your Leica dealer or reps, you can get notifications of these one-off discounted items.

3) Leica has, very rarely, made reductions in the listed prices, per market area or country, if there are large currency fluctuations. I.E. if the Euro is especially weak, the official dollar prices in the US may be lowered to remain competitive with Euro pricing so that Leica USA maintains its sales. (So long as the Mother Ship gets its €4500 net per 35 Summilux ASPH, it doesn't care if that equates to $5300 or $4900 US). Last happened during the Great Recession.

4) At one time, pre-Great Recession, Leica Boutiques and the digital age, Leica would hold "Leica Day" demos at dealerships - and there would often be incentive discounts for new items bought or ordered that day. Generally 5-10%. Get a new $1995 M6 body for $1795.

5) Dealers who are getting out of the Leica line anyway can, of course, simply sell off their remaining new stock at any price they wish. Additionally, stock of new-but-discontinued items removed from the official price list can be sold at any price the dealer chooses. My first "new" M lens was a 21 Elmarit pre-ASPH, bought at dealer cost ($1395, in 2001) four years after it was discontinued in favor of the 21 Elmarit ASPH. And, of course, dealers can offer their own "demo" lenses - open-box items that have been displayed in the store, or returned after very brief use, no warranty registration, and in "like-new" condition.

 

No doubt this is true on a general level. In Norway, for some reason prices are sometimes heavily discounted. I just checked some examples, and the 2/23 in L-Mount is about 880$ (excluding 25 % tax for Norwegians), and the US price seems to be $ 1895 - a 1000$ difference. The Apo-Summicron 75mm is 2300$ (excluding tax), US price is $3995 - about 1 700$ difference. Why these lenses and others are so heavily discounted, I don`t know. For foreigners, it also helps that our currency is weak at present. 

[oka]

Thanks for the info!

[mmx_2]

9 hours ago, Ivar B said:

No doubt this is true on a general level. In Norway, for some reason prices are sometimes heavily discounted. I just checked some examples, and the 2/23 in L-Mount is about 880$ (excluding 25 % tax for Norwegians), and the US price seems to be $ 1895 - a 1000$ difference. The Apo-Summicron 75mm is 2300$ (excluding tax), US price is $3995 - about 1 700$ difference. Why these lenses and others are so heavily discounted, I don`t know. For foreigners, it also helps that our currency is weak at present. 

If you are a non Scandinavian citizen you can also deduct the VAT in Norway. For us neighbors (Sweden, Denmark, Iceland and Finland) it is not allowed due to bilateral agreements post dating EU.