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KMZ Jupiter-12 showing pentagon shaped flare @ f/11, 1/250, Leica M4 & Kodak Portra 160

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Monochrom CCD, Industar 50/f3.5

 

 

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My Jupiter-9 (85/2) is back from having its Soviet gunk replaced with some modern lube, and it's transformed into a lens it's a pleasure to use.  There is definite focus-shift close up and wide open so I've been trying it with live view on the M10 rather than on the Monochrom's RF and I'm very happy with the results. I find the bokeh better at 2.8 than at f2, but it's lovely either way. Only pics around the house so far....

M10, Jupiter-9, f2.8, Silver Efex Pro, slightly cropped

 

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M10, f2.8, 50% crop

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1 hour ago, Musotographer said:

My Jupiter-9 (85/2) is back from having its Soviet gunk replaced with some modern lube, and it's transformed into a lens it's a pleasure to use.  There is definite focus-shift close up and wide open so I've been trying it with live view on the M10 rather than on the Monochrom's RF and I'm very happy with the results. I find the bokeh better at 2.8 than at f2, but it's lovely either way. Only pics around the house so far....

Nice pictures. Make sure you use a hood when you take it outside - it's a rather flare-prone lens. A couple of anecdotal observations, should you (or anyone) be interested:

- Re-greasing indeed makes a big difference. The key is to use a thicker grease than what would be typically used for a German or Japanese lens, else the focus feeling is likely to be too light. I guess this is due to larger tolerances in Soviet manufacturing... 

- If your J-9 is in LTM mount, focus issues may not be only related to the Sonnar formula's unavoidable focus shift, but also to a slight difference in register. See Dante Stella's article here : https://www.dantestella.com/technical/compat.html. AFAIC, I've had a few J-9s and ended up keeping two, but in Contax mount, which I use with an Amedeo adapter. Of course, this is less relevant on LV/EVF-enabled bodies, but the RF remains my focussing method of choice.

- besides the manufacturing plant origin and date, random quality control and sample variation topics that inevitably emerge when discussing Russian lenses, there is a theory specifically about the J-9 evolution. According to it, the various redesigns of this lens followed the aesthetic portrait trends of their times, progressively moving from a (relatively) "sharp & clean" look to a more "glamorous" one. I have no idea if the theory is valid - or if it's QC that followed the Soviet economy - but it's certainly in line with my experience with J9s from various decades. FWIW, I have kept one from 1958, because it's a pretty good vintage lens - and one from 1987, because I occasionally like it's Thambar-like rendering...

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Just a quick morning shot with the 1958 Contax J-9 on the M10, wide open at MFD

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On 10/21/2019 at 6:47 PM, Ecar said:

- Re-greasing indeed makes a big difference. The key is to use a thicker grease than what would be typically used for a German or Japanese lens, else the focus feeling is likely to be too light. I guess this is due to larger tolerances in Soviet manufacturing... 

 According to it, the various redesigns of this lens followed the aesthetic portrait trends of their times, progressively moving from a (relatively) "sharp & clean" look to a more "glamorous" one.......

Thanks - I suspect therefore that a thicker grease is what Malcom has applied. The focusing ring now feels just about ideal - in fact very slightly heavier than a Leica one would be.

Fascinating theory that about the changing taste over the years of portraiture looks. I am slightly surprised how clean the results are from my 1959 Krasnogorsk J-9, though I haven't yet had the chance to do any portraits with it. I'll report back once I have.

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M-E and J-3.

 

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A CAUTION

 

I just received a nice Jupiter-8 50mm f/2.0 from Russia,  It appears to be a good lens and with the foul weather here I have been able to do little checking of it.  The foremost part of the lens which has its name and serial number is a bit banged up, but not much.  I have 40.5mm thread lens hood which I hoped I could use to chase the threads on the Jupiter,.  And, yes, after a little careful fiddling it screwed on.  However when I tried to remove the lens hood it was frozen in the threads of the lens and unscrewing it brought out that foremost part of the lens.  That part with the serial number and the "red P" that is sought after.  I think that my lens is  '55 as the serial number indicates that it is.  But if there were an unscrupulous seller it is possible to remove that outer identifying piece and transfer it to another Jupiter-8.  It may never have happened and it may never happen but it does pay to be cautious even at the low prices for Russian lenses.

 

And, as always, YMMV.

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