ho_co Posted August 4, 2007 Share #241 Posted August 4, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Lenshood for 35/ 50 = 125 EuroLenshood for 75/ 90 = 80 EuroLEICA bei MEISTER[/url] Jens-- Maybe I misunderstood. Will there be just two different hoods for the four lenses? Or will there be four different hoods but at just two prices? Or maybe that wasn't clear from your email? Thanks! --HC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 Hi ho_co, Take a look here *4* New Summarits. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
sean_reid Posted August 5, 2007 Share #242 Posted August 5, 2007 The result being that there are no small/fast wides for the M8.Is this the new politics in force at Leica? Hi LCT, No, not politics. Leica has, on several occasions, expressed their intention to keep the M system as interchangeable as possible. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted August 5, 2007 Share #243 Posted August 5, 2007 Howard, You don't need a cap for Zeiss with the hood as the same pieces of junk they give you for the bare lens fit inside. How you get them on and off is another matter. I have little crescents of double sided sponge tape on the squeeze tabs, otherwise as you remove the cap it either squirts back onto the lens or falls out of your fingers over the cliff. Wilson I criticize that cap design in every Zeiss lens review in the hopes that they'll abandon it and come up with something that is ergonomic. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted August 5, 2007 Share #244 Posted August 5, 2007 I was driven around the Porsche Weissach test track in one by a chassis development engineer last year. A pram (for our US friends, a "pram" in English is a "baby carriage" in US-speak) it is not. Hugely competent it is. That's been my experience as well. Porsche and reliability may not always go hand in hand but the Boxster is a fine car. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwf Posted August 5, 2007 Share #245 Posted August 5, 2007 Assuming good availability on release, the Summarits seem likely to overhang the used M lens market. More supply should mean lower used prices. Query how much and how soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted August 5, 2007 Share #246 Posted August 5, 2007 Jens--Maybe I misunderstood. Will there be just two different hoods for the four lenses? Or will there be four different hoods but at just two prices? Or maybe that wasn't clear from your email? My understanding is that the 35 and 50 will share a hood and the 75 and 90 will share another. This is pretty common practice ... Leica is actually doing us a favor so we don't have to buy four. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted August 5, 2007 Share #247 Posted August 5, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I criticize that cap design in every Zeiss lens review in the hopes that they'll abandon it and come up with something that is ergonomic. True, but I needed reminding in this case. I finally experienced what you so forcefully describe when I started finding the same stupidity on the Nikkors. I guess the advantage for the manufacturers is that they need make only a single cap for the lens, rather than one well-designed one for the lens and another for the hood. Any idea who had the idea first, Zeiss or Nikon? I know Nikon got its start to a certain degree copying the Contax, but this goes way too far. --HC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted August 5, 2007 Share #248 Posted August 5, 2007 "the light sources are round near the center and they become elliptical when they get closer to the edge: it's a clear sign of the existence of coma." Well - no. It's a clear sign of some cat's-eye vignetting at full aperture (as seen from the corners of the frame, the circular aperture appears oval, so that is the shape imparted to out-of-focus blur circles). Coma tends to make shapes in the corners butterfly-shaped or comet shaped (with the comet tail(s) pointing out towards the corners). On the whole I am NOT immediately taken with the imagery as demonstrated in the "performance proof" jpegs from the 75 and 90 'rits. While the resolution looks quite good, the blur circles seem rather hard-edged and contrasty. But I won't make a snap judgement on one or two images - especially since the subject matter (car chrome/paint) is the type that makes for rough bokeh with any lens. I would want to see a lot more examples in a variety of settings, though. I have a suspicion the 35/50 hood may revive the old round perforated design of the 60's, given that they are more expensive than the 75/90 shade. They can't have more metal, so the price difference may be for the more complex machining neede to cut the bevel and perforations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 5, 2007 Share #249 Posted August 5, 2007 I was driven around the Porsche Weissach test track in one by a chassis development engineer last year. A pram (for our US friends, a "pram" in English is a "baby carriage" in US-speak) it is not. Hugely competent it is. Nice little car though the Boxter is, just like an M8 - it's got to be the real thing! Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/30205-4-new-summarits/?do=findComment&comment=321635'>More sharing options...
jflachmann Posted August 5, 2007 Author Share #250 Posted August 5, 2007 Jens--Maybe I misunderstood. Will there be just two different hoods for the four lenses? Or will there be four different hoods but at just two prices? Or maybe that wasn't clear from your email? Thanks! --HC It looks like only two different hoods. I'm not absolutely shure about that, but I think we will have one for the 35 and the 50 mm lens and a second one for the 75 and the 90 mm Summarits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted August 5, 2007 Share #251 Posted August 5, 2007 boxster = scabies a basic elise with 118bhp will spank it silly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted August 5, 2007 Share #252 Posted August 5, 2007 I was driven around the Porsche Weissach test track in one by a chassis development engineer last year. A pram (for our US friends, a "pram" in English is a "baby carriage" in US-speak) it is not. Hugely competent it is. It was the quality of the hood and its mechanism that made me think of a pram. It was rattling and creaking. It (the hood) wasn't much better than that on an old Spitfire that a mate at University used to drive round in. Things may be different now - this was some time ago, as I said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted August 5, 2007 Share #253 Posted August 5, 2007 Nice little car though the Boxter is, just like an M8 - it's got to be the real thing! Wilson hmm, the 996 is most definitely not the real thing though either its a rich mans GT car not a drivers car, water cooled and definitely in the "drives itself" category 997 perhaps but no, it has to be a 993 without question Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guywalder Posted August 5, 2007 Share #254 Posted August 5, 2007 drivers car? This is a drivers car Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/30205-4-new-summarits/?do=findComment&comment=322198'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 5, 2007 Share #255 Posted August 5, 2007 hmm, the 996 is most definitely not the real thing though either its a rich mans GT car not a drivers car, water cooled and definitely in the "drives itself" category 997 perhaps but no, it has to be a 993 without question If you tried my DMS engined 996 with 540 BHP and GT3 suspension, you might change your mind. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted August 5, 2007 Share #256 Posted August 5, 2007 Back in the realms of the budget cars 18 months ago I had to choose a new car. I wanted a convertible that would be both fun to drive, but also capable of covering a high mileage without fuss. I rejected a Boxster very early on - poor build quality and far too cramped - I am 6'3". The example I tried had a problem with the windows - they didn't drop down slightly when they should, but did every time I went over a sleeping policeman! The SLK also failed the leg/headroom test, and had the hairdresser image problem. Nissan lost out on principle - they were unable to provide me with a 240z for more than an hour on an escorted test drive. Peugeot and Volvo I ruled out on grounds of style and taste. BMW? Please - far too common and I'm not an estate agent. Audi? I fell asleep from boredom just browsing the website... To cut a long story short, I ended up with a Saab 9.3 Aero. The 2.0 version with a Hirsch Performance re-chip. That makes it quicker than the standard 2.8 (predominantly because it is lighter) while still returning 38 mpg on a motorway run. 36,000 miles later and it's still doing the job. I have to drive to Leeds every week or so at the moment and it eats the miles with aplomb. It eats front tyres too, but that has as much to do with my driving as with the car. Regards, Bill p.s. - I'll keep my powder dry until production samples are reviewed, but I can see a new 75mm in my future... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gberger Posted August 6, 2007 Share #257 Posted August 6, 2007 Bill - You don't have to be an estate agent to drive a BMW. IMO, the type of car you drive is related to your age and occupation (earning power) as well as your desire to "live it up!" In many respects, the 5 series (5251) BMW is the "Old Fud's Car." Six cilenders. adequate acceleration, very comfortable, and a trunk that will hold several weeks of grocery shopping. On the road, it's harmonic is around 65-70 mph, and a decent 5-speed manual permits you to get out of trouble if needed. Economically, the doggone things apparently last, and last, and last. Our 1995 has 96,000 miles and is just getting broken in. Still, it can pass almost everyhing on the road except a Police/State Trooper vehicle. It's paid for, and needs minimum maintenance. Yeah, and it gets us from Point A to Point B with comfort and style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent10D Posted August 6, 2007 Share #258 Posted August 6, 2007 Welcome to the Leica Automotive Forum! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinal Posted August 6, 2007 Share #259 Posted August 6, 2007 Well, I am going throw in my 2 cents. Is Leica going to keep these lenses in stock? They can't even keep the current lens line up in stock, now 4 more. They must be hiring more people or this must be some kind of dream? Anyway, I am happy about the idea of these lenses but time will tell if they will be available. My choice is the 50 Summarit so compact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflachmann Posted August 6, 2007 Author Share #260 Posted August 6, 2007 They must be hiring more people or this must be some kind of dream?. Well, they do hire more people. And they are still looking for engineers, technicians, project managers etc. Career at Leica Camera AG (descriptions in German only): http://www.leica-corporate.com/career/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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