How big is the T TL TL2 market?

[Charadis]

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2 minutes ago, GRBrown said:

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12 hours ago, Tom1234 said:

I can not remember.  The problem was probably with Apple Mac Safari Browser.  Their latest edition leaves off some elements like check boxes that don't show up on the page.  Sometimes the page expands oddly dumping text out in a way that one page becomes two.  Probably these problems hung me up so I could not use your browser application's features correctly.  I just signed onto a financial site with Safari and had to switch to Chrome to get the site to work.  Of course on your site I was going into it the fist time and did not know that anything was wrong or that I was missing features.  Apple, against my will, turned on automatic software update, so I did not know that they had changed Safari browser, so I did not know to look for a problem.  Sorry to dump this on you. 

Being a Mac user, I am well aware of your problem. Safari is indeed completely useless for interactive sites. 

[Tom1234]

9 hours ago, Charadis said:

While I usually default to their Global Shipping program (and have had great success, too),

Thank you I did not know about this from the selling side since I only sell like once ever 3 to 5 years. 

[Charadis]

2 minutes ago, Tom1234 said:

Thank you I did not know about this from the selling side since I only sell like once ever 3 to 5 years. 

Sure thing! I have a titanium TL, my first Leica, and I've been fighting myself on keeping it or selling since I just got a CL. But it's my first Leica, and that's something I can never get back again. Beautiful design, and watching that 45min video of the polishing process of the T always reminds me why I started looking at the brand - something about holding something someone spent so much time by hand gives me a lot of pride every time I hold it, use it. 

I hope you'll reconsider selling such a work of art ...getting back as much of what you put into the system is going to be tough in a world that judges older tech harshly, and overlooks the more nostalgic details behind the piece

[Tom1234]

5 minutes ago, Charadis said:

I hope you'll reconsider selling such a work of art ...

I have a lot of old Leica lenses so I am going back to bodies with full frame lens  leaving the APS-C format. The TL2 was high tech and had a lot of thoughtful work put into the design.  With the TL2 you really felt like you were using a space age product from a science fiction movie. 

[Marac]

I converted my T to Infrared. CRAZY!

[ramarren]

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20 hours ago, jaapv said:

Being a Mac user, I am well aware of your problem. Safari is indeed completely useless for interactive sites. 

Not my experience. I use Safari almost exclusively, switch to Firefox only once in a while when a quirky site doesn't work with it. About half the time, those quirky sites don't work with Firefox either.

Edited August 16, 2019 by ramarren

[jaapv]

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[Tom1234]

9 hours ago, Marac said:

I converted my T to Infrared. CRAZY!

I like the idea.  Infrared gives the coolist smooth tones.  Is your B&W or Color?  How did you do it?

[Marac]

10 hours ago, Tom1234 said:

I like the idea.  Infrared gives the coolist smooth tones.  Is your B&W or Color?  How did you do it?

I sent mine to Advanced Camera Services in the UK, I chose to have it done at 830 which is virtually B&W, stunning!!

This is direct from camera (set to B&W jpg)

 

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[Tom1234]

Very pretty tonal rendition in the B&W.  I have seen so called color infared but it just does not have the fasinating quality of B&W infrared. 

QUESTION: Did you consider UV conversion?   Comment on it?

Thanks for info on Advanced Camera Services in the UK.  Most custom companies went out of business in the USA economy fall of 2008 causes mainly due to the 40% corporate tax. I will look up Advanced Camera Services for sure.  Oops!  I found a list of infrared conversion services and USA has some they say:

https://robertreiser.photography/infrared-camera-conversion-service/#heading-12

 

 

Edited August 17, 2019 by Tom1234

[Marac]

20 hours ago, Tom1234 said:

Very pretty tonal rendition in the B&W.  I have seen so called color infared but it just does not have the fasinating quality of B&W infrared. 

QUESTION: Did you consider UV conversion?   Comment on it?

Thanks for info on Advanced Camera Services in the UK.  Most custom companies went out of business in the USA economy fall of 2008 causes mainly due to the 40% corporate tax. I will look up Advanced Camera Services for sure.  Oops!  I found a list of infrared conversion services and USA has some they say:

https://robertreiser.photography/infrared-camera-conversion-service/#heading-12

 

 

I considered many options but settled on what I thought was the best option, opinions will differ.

[Tom1234]

4 minutes ago, Marac said:

I considered many options but settled on what I thought was the best option, opinions will differ.

I've been able to find three options, if I have it right they are:

1- Infrared B&W

2- Infrared Color including just the part of the color spectrum near the Infrared and the infrared itself.

3- UV which is color and changes the color of an item according to UV content. 

I guess due to my love of B&W photography I probably like #1 most for Infrared B&W and due to its smoothness of texture. 

[Marac]

1 minute ago, Tom1234 said:

I've been able to find three options, if I have it right they are:

1- Infrared B&W

2- Infrared Color including just the part of the color spectrum near the Infrared and the infrared itself.

3- UV which is color and changes the color of an item according to UV content. 

I guess due to my love of B&W photography I probably like #1 most for Infrared B&W and due to its smoothness of texture. 

A simple choice for me, sounds like you are very similar too, I would recommend the 830 conversion.

 

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[Tom1234]

Is the 830 above the color range?

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How close do you get putting a infrared filter over the camera?  I suppose you loose a lot in infrared ISO equivalent sensitivity?

[Marac]

830 is no colour (only a pale sepia tone from the RAW

Not sure I understand what you mean by the next question.. If you mean using a non converted T with an infrared filter on the front of the lens, I do not recommend that at all the shutter speed will be unusable. CONVERT, the only option.

The M8 was OK for IR with a filter because it had a very thin IR block on the sensor (hence the moans about purple black jackets etc..

[Tom1234]

14 minutes ago, Marac said:

1- 830 is no colour (only a pale sepia tone from the RAW

2- Not sure I understand what you mean by the next question.. If you mean using a non converted T with an infrared filter on the front of the lens, I do not recommend that at all the shutter speed will be unusable. CONVERT, the only option.

3- The M8 was OK for IR with a filter because it had a very thin IR block on the sensor (hence the moans about purple black jackets etc..

2- Yes this is what I meant.  I do not know what CONVERT is, I assume it means to convert the left over brightness information to B&W since it would represent what the infrared was that came through the filter.  

3- Do you know was the M8.2 the same?  Same IR problem? 

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[Marac]

1 minute ago, Tom1234 said:

2- Yes this is what I meant.  I do not know what CONVERT is, I assume it means to convert the left over brightness information to B&W since it would represent what the infrared was that came through the filter.  

3- Do you know was the M8.2 the same?  Same IR problem? 

Convert means they open the camera and physically replace the sensor cover with one that only allows Infrared light to pass.

I am certain the M 8.2 sensor is the same as the M8 so would assume it will behave the same way with an R72 filter on the front.

[Tom1234]

3 minutes ago, Marac said:

Convert means they open the camera and physically replace the sensor cover with one that only allows Infrared light to pass.

I am certain the M 8.2 sensor is the same as the M8 so would assume it will behave the same way with an R72 filter on the front.

I have an old m8.2 so this has me wondering if I can do credible IR photography with it.  Somewhere I just read that the m8.2 passes 50% of the IR light so I am going to look into this.  

Thanks for your TL2 comment that got me going on this IR photography.  I am recently restarting my part time photography persuits and had forgotten about my M8.2's IR anomalies that could be creatively useful.  

Link below to more info m8.2 I just found: