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this photo is of the zoom moving element from a Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar used on an HDV camera. This moves along a thin lubricated steel shaft. All plastic mouldings and bearings with I trust some good quality glass. It works but for how long? Not to be confused with their line of optics for Arriflex.

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Who cares, so long as they are produced to Leica standards?

 

Then it is really a pity because the "Leica standards" don't seem to be very high in this case.

 

The hood cap of the Digilux 2 wouldn't even stay on its hood, what Leica standard is that? LOL

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Jamie, you should check if you've got the right Summilux hood cap in case it didn't come with the lens, there're hood caps for 11873, 11874 ...

 

Hey Simon, I'm partly kidding of course, but it's the hood--not the hood cap, that doesn't stay on very well. Whoever thought of putting the actualy hood release right next to the aperture ring, and having it turn, well... ;)

 

"Even great Homer nods..." or something like that. The 28 Elmarit is sooo much more intelligent in terms of hood attachment!

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But all the Panasonic cameras I've tried ... FZ30, LC1 (I actually had the Digilux 2, returned it after 5 days with less than 80 shots) ... are very disappointing. Yes, I know ... bad mouthing the Digilux 2 is almost like a taboo on this board ... so I promise, this would be the last time I'd mention about it.

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If Leica had the luck to partner with Sony, my view would be instantly changed ... 35mm FF sensor CCD or CMOS, the world's most powerful multimedia DSP ... are all within instant reach.

 

despite your meanderings simon

absolutely the worst part about D2/LC-1 was the totally rubbish sensor from Sony, not a mistake Panasonic are likely to repeat anytime soon now that they possess nMOS. The sensor offerings the likes of Nikon receive, seem no better than other offerings from Canon or anyone else, and further, it would seem to me the liaison Sony have with Zeiss is a tad on the 'dangerous' side.

 

and BTW, to assist your competence at fitting a lens shade as noted, the arrow supposed to go to the top

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absolutely the worst part about D2/LC-1 was the totally rubbish sensor from Sony,

 

I was wondering where you were when we talked about Panasonic ... LOL

 

So Panasonic didn't even have a rubbish sensor to start with ... and they needed a dump from Sony.

 

By the way, nMOS is a flop ... it has only existed on dpreview. :p

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I was wondering where you were when we talked about Panasonic ... LOL

 

So Panasonic didn't even have a rubbish sensor to start with ... and they needed a dump from Sony.

 

By the way, nMOS is a flop ... it has only existed on dpreview. :p

 

Sony wont be doing anyone any favours

i think their stuff is sub par, and they are not developing their way out of it

im not at all surprised you trust the word of Askey

and the 'take it or fake it' DR test

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Sony wont be doing anyone any favours

i think their stuff is sub par, and they are not developing their way out of it

 

You may be right, Rob ... but Sony is supporting the whole digital imaging industry in Japan except Canon - actually, even Canon is supported by Sony :D , now mark my words ... Panasonic is still using Sony's rubbish sensors.

 

dpreview is full of misinformation ... you'll see new sensors you've never heard of in the forthcoming Nikon, Sony ... and the Oly "flagship". Canon is having headaches at the moment but they'll come back. :)

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So far Sony's offering is really s rebadged Minolta, the talk of a FF Sony will end up being just that.

 

Nikon, who use Sony sensors in their dSLRs, are going to have to live with the reality of using sensors supplied by their major competitor, who want their market. No prizes for figuring out how that ends up.

 

Canon, who have first to figure out how their own AF works and then somehow fix it without leaving the bathroom, have fundamentally painted themselves into a corner. Their low end dSLRs are kept de-featured to make the high end offerings seem more attractive. Problem is, the bulk of sales are in smaller APSC sensors, and the featurelist looks scant in reply to Pentax Olympus Panasonic Leica Sony and others. Excepting the price list they are becoming the Zenit of the digital world .

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I'll made only two more comments before I leave the thread:

 

1. Minolta is HISTORY.

2. Nobody else beat the AF performance of a Canon even it's not at its best potential, other companies at current stage could only dream - to make a even faulty Canon.

 

By the way, Panasonic will bow out of the DSLR game (actually this counts three LOL)

 

Have a good day.

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Minolta is a living history in Sony

 

Even one AF point that works defeats the less than mediocre AF performance of a $7,000 anvil that apparently cant be fixed. Now is the time to remember how Leica went about fixing M8, and wait for the class action to get Canon off there ass to repair this 'so called' professional camera the 1DMkIII.

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Riley--I know this is wayyy off topic, but do you really think Canon won't be able to fix the 1d3?

 

"Canon as Zenit!!" LOL!! I didn't quite follow the logic, but my first SLR was a Zenit E :) Who is Practica to Canon's Zenit? Sony? :)

 

what they need is a recall i think, the problem requires a hardware fix which would require a recall, the first firmware fix didnt take. Canon will avoid this at all costs (meaning theirs), their loyal customers are about to revisit Canons customer service intent the hard way.

 

actually, what i said might be demeaning to Zenit owners, for which i unreservedly apologise

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