Q2 electronic shutter selection

[Dion]

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Hi

Am new to Q2 and I am confused with the term focus range (assuming it refers to shutter speed) under the ELECTRONIC SHUTTER  selection in page 91 of the English instruction manual (Image attached). The 3 selections are as follow :-

When Off is selected ---- Only the mechanical shutter is used. Focus range 120 s to 1⁄2000 s.

When Always On is selected ----  Only the electronic shutter function is used. Focus range 1⁄2500 s to 1⁄40000 s.

When Extended is selected ---- You can add in the electronic shutter functions if you need faster shutter speeds than can be achieved with the mechanical shutter. Focus range 120 s to 1⁄2000 s + 1⁄2500 s to 1⁄40000 s.
 

The first selection is clear, there will be no electronic shutter and you are limited to maximum speed of  1⁄2000 s.

For the second selection, does it means that electronic shutter will be used only from 1⁄2500 s to 1⁄40000 s and if yes, is that not already the default for Q2 ? If I select this and use  1⁄500 s to take a picture, will Q2 use mechanical or electronic shutter since the manual says ONLY THE ELECTRONIC FUNCTION IS USED?

For the third selection, does it means that electronic shutter will be used, regardless of shutter speed?

After googling this topic, the closest I can get to an answer is from https://www.reddotforum.com/content/2017/05/leica-sl-firmware-3-0-released-major-updates/ where it document the the new firmware update for the SL (Typ 601): Version 3.0. where one of the the update was to include ALWAYS ON in electronic shutter setting. It goes to say that the best part of version 3.0 is that you can set “Always On” which will activate the electronic shutter function for a much wider range of shutter speeds for completely silent shooting and the range available will depends on your ISO setting.

Hope the experts here can enlighten me on this subject.

Thank you

 

 

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Edited April 19, 2019 by Dion
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[digitalstew]

I think there's a mistake in the "focus range" described in the manual for the 2nd mode, "When Always On is selected."

With my Q2, when I set the Electronic shutter to "Always On" it uses the electronic shutter no matter what the shutter speed is. I tried multiple shutter speeds below 1/2500 using this setting and it always used the electronic shutter.

So:

"Off" = Electronic shutter will not be used. Shutter speed range is 120s to 1/2000.

"Always On" = Electronic shutter is always on throughout the full range of shutter speeds (I think. I tried all the way down to 1s. Not sure what will happen below that.). Mechanical shutter will not be used.

"Extended" = Mechanical shutter will be used for shutter speeds between 120s and 1/2000. Electronic shutter will be used for 1/2500 up to 1/40000.

[Dion]

Hi digitalstew, thanks for the response and me too suspect there's a mistake in the "focus range" described in the manual.

Out of curiosity, how did you ascertain "Always On" = Electronic shutter is always on throughout the full range of shutter speeds as the mechanical shutter is almost silent too?

Thank you

 

 

[digitalstew]

15 hours ago, Dion said:

Hi digitalstew, thanks for the response and me too suspect there's a mistake in the "focus range" described in the manual.

Out of curiosity, how did you ascertain "Always On" = Electronic shutter is always on throughout the full range of shutter speeds as the mechanical shutter is almost silent too?

Thank you

 

 

There's still a difference in sound between the two. In a quiet room, I can easily hear the mechanical leaf shutter, though it's pretty quiet—a small "tick.". The electronic shutter makes absolutely no sound at all, unless you have the "Electronic Shutter Sound" turned on in the menu.

[Dion]

Thanks again digitalstew. Meanwhile have written to Leica Germany and hope to hear a reply.

[Dion]

An update that it was due to a printing error in the English instruction manual, as confirmed by Leica Germany. The reply from them as follow :

 

Dear Leica Customer,

 

Many thanks for your inquiry.

The second entry should normally be called 1s - 1/40000 s ( see technical data sheet ).

So I'm assuming a printing error .

At the third entry, the camera automatically selects the shutter. To 1 / 2000s the mechanical shutter from there the electronic shutter.

 

Do not hesitate to contact me again if you have further questions.

 

 

Mit freundlichen Gruessen / kind regards 
Peter Brieger 
Leica Camera AG 
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Am Leitz-Park 5 / D-35578 Wetzlar

www.leica-camera.com / peter.brieger@leica-camera.com

Telephone 06441-2080111

[Learner]

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Is Herr Brieger's statement clear?

Also, he claims there has been a "printing error"... Looks more like proofreading / quality control oversight.

I understand Leica's desire to dispense with hard copy manuals ... A cost-saving measure.

I just hope that when errors are found, online manuals are corrected.

I say "manuals" because of the various languages.

 

 

Edited April 25, 2019 by Learner