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vor 34 Minuten schrieb james.liam:

If they’re still in business after all this time, someone must be buying their stuff. 

Lots of tourists buy their stuff and seeing their terms and conditions above, no tourist can really claim ( if he hasn't used his creditcard ) I suppose. And of course, sometimes things do not go wrong, but that's not the moment you demand warranty. Some people get out the " tourist trap" without scratches. But maybe it's better to avoid traps...

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On 4/14/2019 at 8:55 PM, Paulus said:

Seems nothing has really changed.....

That’s right. These stories are precisely typical for this shop since I started with photography in 1983

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OMG! Guys, thank you for your warmly feedbacks and replys.

I really feel sorry that such a lot of people have experienced this thing before.

And I also wonder why could this kind of shop still open in the center of the Amesterdam.

 

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On 4/15/2019 at 12:55 PM, Paulus said:

I try to translate some lines in Englisch some lines are written very strange in Dutch. I never have seen a legal document which was written in such an odd way. 

how is the language strange to the native speaker? Is it ungrammatical, unidiomatic, weasel-ly and sly or what?

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vor 1 Stunde schrieb alan.y:

how is the language strange to the native speaker? Is it ungrammatical, unidiomatic, weasel-ly and sly or what?

I think sly is the right word, may be slick would be another word. 

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For instance, in case of default on payment, they charge 10% -a MONTH.  The legal maximum interest rate on credit is 8% + 12% in case of  default (over the 8%) - a YEAR.

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The Nieuwendijk is the area of unsuspecting tourists and pickpockets. There are probably pickpockets that are doing so well that they can start a shop. Amsterdam, where I lived is not unique. I learned that in New York Fifth Avenue years ago.
 
 
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Good news. I saw in their ads that they do not use the word " demo" for used Leica cameras at the moment. They still give 2 years of warranty though, I never heard of someone who made a claim and got what they wanted from them. 

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If they do, they must have permanent red ears by now. There are quite a few threads about their "business practices".

It used to be quite a nice and quaint little shop - fifty years ago...🙄

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Am 14.8.2019 um 22:40 schrieb Paulus:

Good news. I saw in their ads that they do not use the word " demo" for used Leica cameras at the moment. They still give 2 years of warranty though, I never heard of someone who made a claim and got what they wanted from them. 

I stand corrected, he's make DEMO camera's again: https://www.marktplaats.nl/a/audio-tv-en-foto/fotografie-camera-s-digitaal/m1440983322-leica-x2-demo-model-2-jaar-garantie.html?c=8c285449651fa109c354bbabe740c1b&previousPage=lr

 

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Am 26.4.2019 um 15:10 schrieb james.liam:

If they’re still in business after all this time, someone must be buying their stuff. 

They are still in business with " New " demo cameras 2 year warranty.

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=marktplaats&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

 

 

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I understand, that the shop has renewed itself called Profoto.nl nowadays: 

https://www.marktplaats.nl/v/audio-tv-en-foto/fotografie-lenzen-en-objectieven/m1752120013-leica-75mm-f1-4-summilux-m-nieuwstaat-doos-1-jaar-garantie?previousPage=lr

If it is another owner or management....They claim....but..according to this link: https://www.marktplaats.nl/u/fotoprofessional/16301774/

they still sell Leica " DEMO" cameras with 2 years of guarantee. 

The same Fotoprofessional b.v. is still on the adres in the register of the chamber of commerce and even the telephone number has not changed. One should say, when this is a new shop, that would be the fist thing to alter, not wanting to be associated with the former shop? 

When you dig deeper one can stil see " Marktplaats" advertisements with the old name. Seems their account has not changed?

And ..whoops...their general conditions on website Promoot.nl are the ones from....Foto Professional!:

https://profoto.nl/pages/algemene-voorwaarden

 

 

 

 

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