dhsimmonds Posted July 24, 2007 Share #21 Â Posted July 24, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well I tried to reproduce this "bug" and damned if I can! Not that I even want to anyway as my shooting workflow rarely requires me to chimp, although I do glance down at the LCD occasionally between shots to check the histogram which I always have the DMR set up for. Â But to check out Roberts bug I played back an image, zoomed it to nearly maximum and and pressed info. I just got the usual 1/4 screen image, 1/4 screen histogram and the data on the remaining half screen as normal. I must be doing something wrong........****! Â No my friends, I don't treat my cameras by pressing all the buttons at once. I wouldn't do that in the cockpit of an aeroplane and neither will I do it to my camera. Â The point is that v-1.3 is in my view a great improvement over v-1.2 and seems to serve my way of photography very well indeed....so far! Just need some 4gb SD cards now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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andybarton Posted July 24, 2007 Share #22 Â Posted July 24, 2007 The bug affects R8/DMR users too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 24, 2007 Share #23 Â Posted July 24, 2007 But to check out Roberts bug I played back an image, zoomed it to nearly maximum and and pressed info. Â You need to have the DMR set to "Play" in full screen mode, without the data and histogram. And, push the "Info" button while the image is being built from the RAW data. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhsimmonds Posted July 24, 2007 Share #24  Posted July 24, 2007 Andy  Why would you want to do that? I'm curious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted July 24, 2007 Author Share #25 Â Posted July 24, 2007 Rob, I posted earlier that I can reproduce the zoom/info problem, in case you missed it. Â I caught your post. I was just wondering if Conrad had the problem, since I think he is on a R8 rather than a R9. Â Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted July 24, 2007 Author Share #26  Posted July 24, 2007 Andy Why would you want to do that? I'm curious.  Dave:  I found it while checking for blown highlights in a certain portion of the image. I started with the large image, used the zoom and then scrolled to the part of the image I want the info on and pressed info.  To get the bug, you need to press info before the sharp version of the zoomed image is built.  Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted July 24, 2007 Author Share #27 Â Posted July 24, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) But to check out Roberts bug I played back an image, zoomed it to nearly maximum and and pressed info. I just got the usual 1/4 screen image, 1/4 screen histogram and the data on the remaining half screen as normal. I must be doing something wrong........****! Â For the bug to appear, you need to press info before the zoomed image becomes sharp. You then need to scroll around in the zoomed info window for the hang or odd problems to happen. Â Can you confirm if this bug exists with your camera. I am just wondering if it is related to different versions of harware. If everybody has this problem, it is not specific to versions of the R8/R9 or DMR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH21 Posted July 24, 2007 Share #28 Â Posted July 24, 2007 I had a lockup with 1.3 also when reviewing images. I think I had pushed info then decided to go to the previous image. My DMR/R8 locked up with half of the 1st image on top and half of the 2nd image on the bottom. I was able to get the camera/DMR to become responsive again by changing shooting modes but it still displayed the images in question half and half though it displayed other images on the card normally. Â I don't know if this is the same bug or not... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicamr Posted July 24, 2007 Share #29 Â Posted July 24, 2007 I get the impression that the zoom function is no faster than before. This is my only major gripe with version 1.1. Â Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted July 24, 2007 Author Share #30 Â Posted July 24, 2007 Eric: Â I think it is the same bug. You probably pressed info before the image was sharp. It really only gets nasty if you then try to scroll around the image with the info window active. Â If you don't scroll around in the info window, pressing info again may or may not cause problems. I was getting odd behaviour ranging from a snow image to black image and even a negative image of the green channel. Â Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaireen Posted July 25, 2007 Share #31 Â Posted July 25, 2007 Rob, I posted earlier that I can reproduce the zoom/info problem, in case you missed it. Â I have tried both flashguns metz 54mz-3 with adaptor sca 3502 and also leica SF 24D with the DMR but the ISO reading of asa 100 on the DMR is 125 on both the flash guns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmb_ Posted July 25, 2007 Share #32 Â Posted July 25, 2007 I discovered what may be another problem with the 1.3 firmware. Â When I scroll through the menu it will skip ahead or back a few items. For example, scrolling down through the menu one item at a time, as I continue to scroll down from Picture Numbering it will jump UP to ISO Push instead of down to AutoReview (this is just an example, it will happen at different menu items, also happens in both directions). This happens scrolling fast or very slowly and deliberately one item at a time. Â This could be a problem with my scroll wheel (setting ring) and not a result of the new firmware. Anyone else see this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rubidium Posted July 25, 2007 Share #33  Posted July 25, 2007 I discovered what may be another problem with the 1.3 firmware. When I scroll through the menu it will skip ahead or back a few items. For example, scrolling down through the menu one item at a time, as I continue to scroll down from Picture Numbering it will jump UP to ISO Push instead of down to AutoReview (this is just an example, it will happen at different menu items, also happens in both directions). This happens scrolling fast or very slowly and deliberately one item at a time.  This could be a problem with my scroll wheel (setting ring) and not a result of the new firmware. Anyone else see this?  The same happens to me occasionally. It appears to be the scroll wheel, as the effect occurs with all firmware versions. It also does not occur by using the up/down buttons. I also noticed that if I "exercise" the scroll wheel back-and-forth/around-and-around a bit, the problem goes away. This leads me to suspect some lube or soil has made its way onto the scroll wheel contacts. I have a stereo volume control in my car that behaves the exact same way. Were it not such an inconvenience, I would send it in to Leica and have them rectify it. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmb_ Posted July 25, 2007 Share #34 Â Posted July 25, 2007 Thanks rubidium. I never noticed it before. I rarely use the menu except to format the SD card so it is not a big problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicamr Posted July 26, 2007 Share #35 Â Posted July 26, 2007 It appears that the users in this thread have a guaranteed repeatable bug which does not occur in release 1.1 Â My DMR will remain with version 1.1 until 1.4 is released. But I guess that the slow image zoom is a hardware function not firmware. It is the only thing that 'bugs' me about the DMR. Â Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 26, 2007 Share #36 Â Posted July 26, 2007 Depending on who produced this Firmware upgrade, v1.4 (even if it's only a bug fix for this issue), could be some time, if ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogopix Posted July 26, 2007 Share #37  Posted July 26, 2007 It appears that the users in this thread have a guaranteed repeatable bug which does not occur in release 1.1 My DMR will remain with version 1.1 until 1.4 is released. But I guess that the slow image zoom is a hardware function not firmware. It is the only thing that 'bugs' me about the DMR.  Mark   I would go ahead and update to 1.3  WHY? Well, I just tried the 'Rob" test on a DMR with 1.1 even crazier behavior; not only did it 'freeze' but when it did jump back afeter a few 'gorilla presses' on the buttons, I then got a psychdelic screen. I then moved to and eaerlier picture ...and it zoomed a picture that was zoomed before (buffer in zoom?)  My recommendation is that with all possible combinations, we let random 'accidents' happen then tell Leica.  Robert did a natural thing, but if we all start playing we will find that there will not be enough memory to catch all of our crazy combos. Even in Robert's case, I would NOT fix it. Reboot. Always a safe way to overcome rare combos. I warn; a fix may be worse than the problem  LOL  BTW, I have many cameras including P45 (zoom is awful) and Kodak SLR and a canon and tried a few others. The DMR and the M8 are the most sensible zooms out there! Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisfoto Posted July 27, 2007 Share #38 Â Posted July 27, 2007 Did anyone notice any improvements in camera function after installing the update? Is it worth it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhsimmonds Posted July 27, 2007 Share #39 Â Posted July 27, 2007 In my view it is well worth changing to v-1.3. Colour rendition, white balance and exposures all seem to have improved and the screen image is far superior. As I am not a serial "chimper", the bugs reported here do not bother me. Â Save your current firmware version if you are not sure, then you can always change back if it's not for you. Leica have not retained v-1.1 or v-1.2 on their downloads webpage. Â In fact it would be nice if somehow we could have a "library" of firmware versions for all Leica digital cameras that forum members could access, now that Leica have decided to only publish their latest on their site. Any ideas how this could be accomplished? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlancasterd Posted July 27, 2007 Share #40 Â Posted July 27, 2007 Did anyone notice any improvements in camera function after installing the update?Is it worth it? Â Yes and yes. AWB is better. Rear screen colour is better. ISO 800 and 1600 are now useable - much reduced colour noise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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