robsteve Posted July 24, 2007 Share #1 Posted July 24, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) It didn't take long for me to find a bug in the firmware. If you display an image, zoom in and then press info before the zoomed image is sharp, the camera can hang if you try scrolling around in the zoomed info window. I think it does not get the whole image or dimensions of the image transferred to the info window and you scroll out off the memory space where the image is. This causes the screen to do odd things and also hang the camera. I thought it was my SD cards, but I tried three different cards, including the Sandisk model included with the DMR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 24, 2007 Posted July 24, 2007 Hi robsteve, Take a look here Bug in DMR firmware 1.3. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
andybarton Posted July 24, 2007 Share #2 Posted July 24, 2007 Bu**er. Is this fixable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted July 24, 2007 Author Share #3 Posted July 24, 2007 Bu**er. Is this fixable? I just sent an email to the Leica NJ sales manager, asking him to forward the info to the appropriate people. Can you reproduce problem this on your DMR? Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted July 24, 2007 Author Share #4 Posted July 24, 2007 A second bug, which I have not spent much time on seems to be the DMR hangs if a card with M8 files is in the DMR and the Play button is pressed. I am a bit busy today and may look at this bug further this evening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 24, 2007 Share #5 Posted July 24, 2007 I have linked this thread to "my man" in Leica UK, so watch what you say I am at the office, 50 miles from my DMR at the moment, but will try to reproduce these circumstances on mine when I get home. It will be interesting to see whether it does this on an R8 too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_d Posted July 24, 2007 Share #6 Posted July 24, 2007 My DMR works fine and doesn't hang on me when I push all the buttons at once. When I put 120 roll film in my M6 it doesn't work correctly but it works great with 35mm film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted July 24, 2007 Share #7 Posted July 24, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) When I put 120 roll film in my M6 it doesn't work correctly but it works great with 35mm film. Yes, but what happens when you put a roll of film from your M6 into your R8? <grin> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlancasterd Posted July 24, 2007 Share #8 Posted July 24, 2007 A second bug, which I have not spent much time on seems to be the DMR hangs if a card with M8 files is in the DMR and the Play button is pressed. LOL! This reminds me of a colleague who, having driven a Landrover at high speed off an elevated road in Kenya complained in his accident report to HQ in London that 'The Landrover has the flying ability of a housebrick - it should have a warning to this effect in the handbook....' :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 24, 2007 Share #9 Posted July 24, 2007 I think that some people are missing the point here... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmb_ Posted July 24, 2007 Share #10 Posted July 24, 2007 Rob, I can reproduce this on my R9/DMR. Display an image > Zoom > hit Info before image is sharp > camera hangs, will not zoom around in image. Also, Display an image > Zoom > hit Info before image is sharp > the info window will display properly but then if I hit Info again to clear it, sometimes it hangs, other times it displays a screen of all what appears to be noise. It never hangs the camera completely. I can get it to return. I do not have an M8 so cannot confirm the second problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgcd Posted July 24, 2007 Share #11 Posted July 24, 2007 A second bug, which I have not spent much time on seems to be the DMR hangs if a card with M8 files is in the DMR and the Play button is pressed. I am a bit busy today and may look at this bug further this evening. I haven't tried to hang my DMR yet on 1.3 with the first situation you describe. However, how is trying to play M8 files on the DMR without success a bug? Leica clearly indicates in the DMR instructions manual not to view images from other cameras on the DMR. "The Digital-Modul-R can only be used to view image data produced with the unit." As such this is not a bug. Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 24, 2007 Share #12 Posted July 24, 2007 As such this is not a bug. "It's a feature" - quote Bill Gates. Any time since 1985 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgcd Posted July 24, 2007 Share #13 Posted July 24, 2007 "It's a feature" - quote Bill Gates. Any time since 1985 Andy - One cannot expect equipment to do something that the manufacturer clearly indicates it will not do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted July 24, 2007 Share #14 Posted July 24, 2007 However, how is trying to play M8 files on the DMR without success a bug? Leica clearly indicates in the DMR instructions manual not to view images from other cameras on the DMR. "The Digital-Modul-R can only be used to view image data produced with the unit." As such this is not a bug Hi Conrad, with most other digital cameras if you do this you get an error message saying that there are no valid images on the card. That seems the correct approach to me, the camera certainly shouldn't hang. What if you have several SD cards, want to review them, but can't remember which was used on an M8 or DMR? Did this happen with the earlier version of the firmware? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted July 24, 2007 Share #15 Posted July 24, 2007 Andy - One cannot expect equipment to do something that the manufacturer clearly indicates it will not do. No but it should handle errors 'gracefully'. If it gets into a situation that it can't handle it should give the user an error message, it certainly shouldn't just hang. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 24, 2007 Share #16 Posted July 24, 2007 True enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgcd Posted July 24, 2007 Share #17 Posted July 24, 2007 Hi Conrad, with most other digital cameras if you do this you get an error message saying that there are no valid images on the card. That seems the correct approach to me, the camera certainly shouldn't hang. What if you have several SD cards, want to review them, but can't remember which was used on an M8 or DMR? Did this happen with the earlier version of the firmware? Steve - I never tried it since I tend to read instructions manuals first and apply whatever is in there. However, you make a good point with respect to a warning message. I guess Leica thinks most users actually read their manuals... Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted July 24, 2007 Share #18 Posted July 24, 2007 It's probably more likely that they never thought of this particular situation during the testing phase. In general when you're writing software it helps to assume that the user will make mistakes. Then you try to trap as many as possible. However it's enevitable that some will slip though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted July 24, 2007 Author Share #19 Posted July 24, 2007 I haven't tried to hang my DMR yet on 1.3 with the first situation you describe. However, how is trying to play M8 files on the DMR without success a bug? Leica clearly indicates in the DMR instructions manual not to view images from other cameras on the DMR. "The Digital-Modul-R can only be used to view image data produced with the unit." As such this is not a bug. Cheers, Condrad: For those of us that shoot both a DMR and a M8, it wasn't a problem in the past. It is not that we want to see M8 files on a DMR, but that we want to see what is on the card when it is put into the camera and before formatting it. Can you replicate the zoom/info bug? For those asking why the zoom and then press info, it helps me see just how much of an area is clipped and indicated with the red clipping warning. It doesn't matter if the preview has built to the point of being in focus when I am checking this. Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmb_ Posted July 24, 2007 Share #20 Posted July 24, 2007 Rob, I posted earlier that I can reproduce the zoom/info problem, in case you missed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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