grober Posted July 22, 2007 Share #1 Posted July 22, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I took in every minute of the Hasselblad PowerPro tour this week when it came to my region. Yes, Hasselblad is an incredible system but what impressed me more was their including other partners on the tour, namely Apple and a local high-end printer reseller. (The extensive Aperture demo alone by the Apple employee made me severely regret my choice of Windows as my Photoshop platform five years ago. "How do I change platforms now?" me thinks.) Please Leica: tour North America with something similar to assist your M8 community deal with all the ancillary issues kicked up by our conversion to digital with this camera. I still struggle to get a usable color print from my second-generation Canon printer that equals what I commonly saw from the same printer in my film-to-scanner-to-printer days with the M6 and M7. Stop giving workshops to show us how to hold the camera and select the proper lens; start teaching us better workflow, color management and digital archiving. (After 40 years of shooting mostly with the M, I think I know how to hold the camera!) Yes, we all have a lot to learn in order to make the M8 system perform to its potential. I'm looking for sources of information that can assist me in this pursuit. I would most happily invest in a local class if it talked specifically to my workflow and color management issues. Separately, I strongly recommend the book: Stephen Johnson On Digital Photography. [O'Reilly Media; published in 2006.] Some of the later chapters look very promising. -g Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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johnastovall Posted July 22, 2007 Share #2 Posted July 22, 2007 This past spring Leica was providing such training in the M8 work shop. I was impressed because it started with our calibrating the monitors we would be using. It addressed issues such as work flow in C1 and printing profiles and had an Epson 2400 for printing of our finished images. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted July 22, 2007 Share #3 Posted July 22, 2007 Grober, As John stated above, Leica had a similar sort of workshop all over the United States in the Spring. They also partnered with Apple and "high-end printer". Unfortunately, Aperture wasn't supporting the M8 at that time, so we had a great demo on C1. If a "local workshop" is what you are after, why not take one from the man himself, Stephen Johnson? He is based just south of San Francisco and has a great printing workshop which I have taken. Digital Photography Workshops with Stephen Johnson Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted July 22, 2007 Share #4 Posted July 22, 2007 No need to change OS PC platforms. A WinTel PC can do everything, and more, then a Apple Mac can do. Maybe years ago Mac might of been a better choice for graphic work but that is not the case today. You do know they run on the same CPU/Chipset now, a Intel CPU and chipset. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceflynn Posted July 22, 2007 Share #5 Posted July 22, 2007 A PC cannot run Aperture. A current Macintosh can run the Mac OS, and also run, using Parallels, two different versions of Windows and Ubuntu Linux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted July 22, 2007 Share #6 Posted July 22, 2007 A PC cannot run Aperture. A current Macintosh can run the Mac OS, and also run, using Parallels, two different versions of Windows and Ubuntu Linux. Yeah so. What is so good about Aperture? It didn't even support the M8 until about a week ago. I can run all the Linux versions I want. But I'm to busy to run a dual boot system. I want a system that works with all the program I need to run for work and for play. Please tell me more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grober Posted July 22, 2007 Author Share #7 Posted July 22, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) This past spring Leica was providing such training in the M8 work shop. I was impressed because it started with our calibrating the monitors we would be using. It addressed issues such as work flow in C1 and printing profiles and had an Epson 2400 for printing of our finished images. Please send me the workshop's contact info. Perhaps I might be able to glean some helpful information -OR- determine their future schedule of appearances. Sorry I missed it. Thanks! -g Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted July 22, 2007 Share #8 Posted July 22, 2007 Please tell me more. Parallels isn't a dual boot system. It runs alongside OS X. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttriolo Posted July 23, 2007 Share #9 Posted July 23, 2007 No need to change OS PC platforms. A WinTel PC can do everything, and more, then a Apple Mac can do. Maybe years ago Mac might of been a better choice for graphic work but that is not the case today. You do know they run on the same CPU/Chipset now, a Intel CPU and chipset. Not so Shootist. Take it from someone who uses both platforms. For anyone, but especially the photographer, the Mac is the way to go. It is so superior to a Wintel machine it is not even close. The Mac just works. The OS is rock solid never needing all the hand-holding of a high maintenance system like a PC. Whether it's image management or post-production, the Mac provides clear, logical and intuitive workflow solutions. As you point out, it does now use an Intel chip but that's the only similarity with a PC. It's the hardware and operating system that continues to win converts everyday. The R&D and impeccable design characteristics that go into products like the iPod and iPhone aptly illustrate the superior engineering that goes into an Apple computer. I will agree with you on your assessment of Aperture, however. Adobe's Lightroom is a far better product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirvine Posted July 23, 2007 Share #10 Posted July 23, 2007 Why even debate this anymore? All Intel macs run Windows. The only reason to own a PC is specialized hardware that Apple doesn't offer. I'm wracking by brain to come up with anything except maybe graphics cards for gaming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceflynn Posted July 23, 2007 Share #11 Posted July 23, 2007 For many users, Aperture is a single application that does much of what Photoshop and Lightroom do in a way that is more intuitively-appealing. While there is certainly a learning curve, the application is fun to use. You should be able to see it at one of the two Apple Stores in Atlanta: Apple Store - Store List Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted July 23, 2007 Share #12 Posted July 23, 2007 JW-- Can you say more about the PowerPro tour? More than a day? How large the attendance limit? Time for shooting? Etc. The M8 intro was far more sophisticated than the brochure made it sound, but was too short. At the Irving presentation, Lightroom had just been announced; and though it wasn't on the schedule, Scott Geffert took time outside the class to give some help to those just starting with the program. A far better show than I had hoped. --HC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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