Shall I change from Zeiss ZM 21mm F/2.8 to 21mm Super Elmar?

[Torontoamateur]

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The vendor of the 21mm SEM was a fraud. So weirdo and I never received the lens and PayPal  preserved my money.  I was upset and could not find another as soon as needed.  I found a 21mm Zeiss in Nikon mount and grabbed it. Used it on my D800E. Seems fine.  I still long for the 21mm SEM. Funny how owning a lens becomes a "goal" and there is a need to satisfy.  May have found one locally. I remain concerned about the offer being a sham in that the condition of the lens described a 'new" may not be. The vendor wants to meet in a coffee shop yet I remain suspicious. Is this real or  a scam to bring me with $3,000 in my pocket to be mugged? Or pay for the lens and then be mugged with no money and also no lens? I guess I should let this "deal" go and stick with known dealers and ignore this KIJIJI nonsense. What would you do?

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[otto.f]

If it doesn’t feel good why bother. Are you in a hurry? When do you leave to that secret far away place?

[J.Nordvik]

59 minutes ago, Torontoamateur said:

The vendor of the 21mm SEM was a fraud. So weirdo and I never received the lens and PayPal  preserved my money.  I was upset and could not find another as soon as needed.  I found a 21mm Zeiss in Nikon mount and grabbed it. Used it on my D800E. Seems fine.  I still long for the 21mm SEM. Funny how owning a lens becomes a "goal" and there is a need to satisfy.  May have found one locally. I remain concerned about the offer being a sham in that the condition of the lens described a 'new" may not be. The vendor wants to meet in a coffee shop yet I remain suspicious. Is this real or  a scam to bring me with $3,000 in my pocket to be mugged? Or pay for the lens and then be mugged with no money and also no lens? I guess I should let this "deal" go and stick with known dealers and ignore this KIJIJI nonsense. What would you do?

Why pay 3000 dollars for a used lens when you can buy a new one for 2850,- Euro (including 19% VAT)?

https://www.meister-camera.com/de/produkt/5565/leica-super-elmar-m-3421mm-asph

 

A used one should go for close to half that price. I paid something like 1700,- Euro.

[Kwesi]

1 hour ago, Torontoamateur said:

The vendor of the 21mm SEM was a fraud. So weirdo and I never received the lens and PayPal  preserved my money.  I was upset and could not find another as soon as needed.  I found a 21mm Zeiss in Nikon mount and grabbed it. Used it on my D800E. Seems fine.  I still long for the 21mm SEM. Funny how owning a lens becomes a "goal" and there is a need to satisfy.  May have found one locally. I remain concerned about the offer being a sham in that the condition of the lens described a 'new" may not be. The vendor wants to meet in a coffee shop yet I remain suspicious. Is this real or  a scam to bring me with $3,000 in my pocket to be mugged? Or pay for the lens and then be mugged with no money and also no lens? I guess I should let this "deal" go and stick with known dealers and ignore this KIJIJI nonsense. What would you do?

The lens serial# should be between 45xx and 47xx if its a new lens. Is the person an owner or a vendor? do they have photos of the lens? it should come with the shade. The 21 SEM doesn't 

have the protection ring for when you aren't using the hood

 

[Kwesi]

I just checked out the item and its not new.

It has no box or papers and the lens has a protective filter on it. Price is just ok if in Canadian dollars, but its definitely not a new lens.

 

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-camera-camcorder-lens/city-of-toronto/leica-lens-super-elmar-m-1-34-21/1489672642

[Xavier]

So sad to read about this story!

I think there are ways to make a local deal safer, like go with someone and/or select a place that you choose. Do some research online before going there, so that you know precisely what the lens looks like. And also make sure to test it.

Good luck, I hope it works out this time!