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marius

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hello from first-time poster — what do you guys do for your digital workflow? i've used lightroom for a while, and really like it, but in order to get color corrections, images have to go through c1 first. two questions i guess:

 

1) can you use OSX "Image Capture" and just apply the leica m8 color profile to the DNGs from there? is that equivalent to what C1 does? (color management is a tricky thing, and everyone uses different terminologies... sigh.)

2) why doesn't leica just apply the correcting color profiles in firmware? is it to maintain some sort of flexibility?

 

oh, and one more: i like to use raw for everything, one thing i've noticed is that if i use just dng instead of dng+jpg, the m8 seems to do jpg postprocessing on the dng every time i preview it on the back. does this drain the battery much? is it advantageous to just use dng+jpg if you plan on looking at pictures there a lot?

 

thanks, marius.

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Marius,

 

Since I have decided, pro tem, to wait for the colour management in Aperture to improve and have gone back to C1, my work flow is as follows.

 

1) Plug SD card into my Macally combined card reader/powered USB2 hub.

 

2) Copy DNG's (I take DNG only files) into a "day" sub-directory on my external hard drive, where I have an archived copy of all my DNG's. If I have more than one shoot in the day, I will then also copy the DNG's to the capture sub-directory of the Capture Session Folder. If I only have one shoot in the day, I will process from the external hard drive day sub-directory.

 

3) Process the shoot in C1 as a batch, remembering you must select a 'to' icc profile as well as a process or camera profile or your images will display oddly (I use Adobe RGB 1998). You only need to do this once, C1 remembers it for the next job. I don't do any tweaks at this stage in general but will sometimes select a different icc camera profile depending upon what the shoot was. I may also change the 'film' type from as shot to high contrast or more rarely enhanced shadow prior to processing.

 

4) I then import the shoot as a named folder from the processed directory in C1 to iPhoto. Before closing C1, I delete the list of processed files when you are in the process batch tab. If you don't delete this list before you clear the processed folder, it can give rise to horrible problems.

 

5) Once you are happy the files are all successfully in iPhoto, clear the capture and process sub directories of image files in the C1 Session folder. Eject the SD card and re-format in the camera.

 

6) I now use iPhoto to view and sort the images into keepers and chuckers.

 

7) I use PSE4 to edit the 16 bit tiffs as required. If you want to post these as JPEG's or send them as JPEG's to anyone, you have to change the colour mode to 8 bit first.

 

Hope all this helps.

 

Wilson

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Marius,

Welcome to the forum. Hope it will help you enjoy your camera more and more. Your 1st question is an interesting one: workflow and color management. Not an easy start! :D

I use DNG only, work on Mac. My workflow is in short:

 

- Photo Mechanic for copying from SD-card to hard disk (and automatic second copy to external disk), IPTC insert during and after copying, automatic folder creation and renaming files, removing bad pictures

 

- Capture One Pro for selecting, tagging, correcting and processing in desired file format, bit depth and work space (mostly 8-bits TIFF, AdobeRGB). Re. color management I pay attention to using the right camera proflie (M8 with/without UV/IR filter). For high contrast images I often process an image twice (light and dark).

 

- Photoshop CS3 for combining multiple processed images (when high contrast image), minor color, contrast or highlight/shadow corrections, dust removal, additional output file (ie. JPEG, smaller size, sRGB of web or email) creation

 

- Archival to DVD (twice, 1 stored off-site).

 

No cataloging software in place currently, although I have Lightroom and Aperture in my disk. :(

 

Regarding your color management questions: DNG is a raw file format, so no color profiles apply yet. Only when converting to a RGB file (TIFF, JPEG), you can apply a camera profile for input (in C1), and color space profile (for example AdobeRGB or sRGB) for output.

Regarding your last question: don't now about draining battery due to in-camera DNG processing for viewing.

 

Hope this helps (not confuses) you.

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My workflow is even shorter, but I am not a pro:

 

- Insert card into reader

- Import from Lightroom. I didn't used to do it directly, but I have been trying it and there have been no problems. If I had a lot of images, I would likely copy them to disk first.

- Develop, print, export, whatever.

- Run weekly backups to an external hard drive. I do them daily whenever there are important pictures. I should add a CD/DVD step here, but I have no faith in them. I am kinda waiting for an affordable Gigabyte Magneto-Optical drive. I am toying with the idea of using relatively cheap SD cards as backups!

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Convert the files to DNGs with a full sized preview using the Adobe DNG converter and put them in a mirrored folder.

 

Catalogue them using iView Media Pro, sorry Microsoft Expression Media.

 

RAW conversion/manipulation in Adobe Photoshop CS3.

 

I tried Lightroom but didn't like the interface. Maybe I should have tried it for longer, but Photoshop seems more familiar and much more powerful and flexible.

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