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vor 2 Stunden schrieb Steven:

And last but not least, unlike what someone else said earlier in the thread,

If you are satisfied with this lens, then that's all that matters. This lens sure has its own signature, hated by some and loved by others.

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vor 12 Minuten schrieb Steven:

I disagree. The imprecise focus is perfect (to me). 

I appreciate that it is sometimes difficult to read between the lines if the form of communication is in writing only. To explain, my above comment was not meant to be taken 100% seriously 😉.

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3 hours ago, ianman said:

I got a Pre-Asph steel rim for $1200 about 12 years ago. I cannot believe the prices people are paying for these now.

About right. I got mine in 2009 for $1600.

I think the advent of the Monochroms, new sensor microlenses that reduce Italian-flag syndrome with wides, and the M10's ability to "permanently" code for one lens in the menus (and now includes corrections for the 35 'lux pre-ASPH specifically - an uncodable and previous unsupported lens) have broadened the demand. Not to mention a resurgence in film and film Leicas in particular (see used M6 prices!)

My beef with the pre-ASPH 35 Summilux was never the imaging. But that it was never updated to 0.7m close focusing, or the thinner mount that could be swapped for a 6-bit mount.

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8 hours ago, Steven said:

And last but not least, unlike what someone else said earlier in the thread, it's TACK SHARP at F2. Here we go: 

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I like the binary nature of this lens - soft wide open, and sharp stopped down.  My point back a page was slightly different.  

Photography, for me, is not about “capturing reality”, whatever that means.  A photograph is a rendition of a moment in time, as perceived by the photographer.  The more it captures the photographer’s vision, the more interesting the image.  Conversely, a “beautiful” image will often stray into technically good or even excellent, but chocolate boxy.  Similarly, I don’t think an image which display’s the lens or camera’s capabilities has any particular merit - however well taken.  I guess that repeats comments I’ve made before that the fingerprint of the equipment should disappear into the image, or should add to it, but in a non-intrusive way.

This picture is excellent, by the way.  As I don’t futz over gear, I couldn’t tell you what lens it was taken with, as you’ve captured the scene in a way which shares what you see.  I must confess, I haven’t spent enough time with my 35 Summilux pre-asph to match the quality of this image.

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Tri-X with 35:1.4 v2.   I can't remember the aperture but was definitely stopped down as I don't have ND's for it yet :D 

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30 minutes ago, grahamc said:

Tri-X with 35:1.4 v2.   I can't remember the aperture but was definitely stopped down as I don't have ND's for it yet :D 

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Very 1960s vibe, Graham. 

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21 hours ago, Steven said:

And last but not least, unlike what someone else said earlier in the thread, it's TACK SHARP at F2. Here we go: 

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I love the look of it here 👏  

is indeed very versatile, and now I have a good copy (v2 of course) I can relate to the “2 lenses in one” reputation, which I wasn’t convinced of with my first copy. 

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Wide open at closest focus on the M9. Colours are muted excepting the reds.

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And one stopped down into the light.

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Portra 400. Summilux v2. Pano. M4.

 

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A different view.  Same specs. 

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One thing I keep struggling with is the Summi for landscapes.  I traded an early Canadian version (used in two previous photos) which I thought was too washed out for a 1990 German version.  The coatings are very different.  In bright light there's almost a psychedelic look...  Maybe I went too far!  In short - I'm liking the pre apsh for city views but struggling for landscape. 

 

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On 9/1/2021 at 2:01 PM, Steven said:

To me, the glow and the halo that you get wide open create a very nice mood. I like it for documenting family life. 

Sometimes, when it comes to these moments, all I want is a memory. I don't care for sharpness. I don't even care for focus sometimes. Like on this shot. Focus is not precise, but I think it still works, at least  for me... 

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Hi Steve, for family documentary/capturing moments in life, which camera do you prefer if only one: Q2, M or SL2-s?

With M do you nail exposure when shooting fast/capturing a fleeting family moment or often have to correct in post?

More to get a sense if you find matrix/multi meter and EVF of Q2/SL2-s faster to work with compared to M and OVF and CW meter?

Thank you 😊

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19 minutes ago, Steven said:

Hi, 

Tough one. Probably way out f the context of this thread, too, but I'll answer, because the first time I came wandering this forum, it was with an ideal in mind. I wanted to have only one camera, and I was hesitating between the Q2 and the M10P. 

To give you a bit of context, I had just started my Leica journey trying an M6 out of curiosity, not knowing much about film. The loved the camera, but the limitations were too much for me. So I bought an M10P, which I loved. But I wanted AF, so I bought a Q2, and discovered the 28mm focal length, when I had only used 35 for the previous 15 years.

I did my best to try to love only one, and convince myself that only one was enough.  I could not. I always missed one. 

So I bought them all together again, and the hardest part then was that every tome I left home with one camera, I missed the one I didn't have with me. It took me about a year to work on myself, earn some experience, and realise one thing. I does not matter which camera I bring out with me. Because any camera you have with you is enough.

ALL THE TIME. DOES NOT MATTER THE BODY. DOES NOT MATTER WHICH FOCAL LENGH. Any camera you bring with you is enough to tell the story that unfold in, or in front of your life.

I'm not saying I can live with one body or one lens, because to me, a camera is more than just a tool. It's a feeling, it's a mood, it's an ambiance, it's a look. Sometimes I want my Q2. Sometimes I want the versatility of my SL. Sometimes I want to shoot film. Because the process that will come before you snap a photo makes a difference, and it's just about learning to understand what you feel and need at a precise moment. Not sure if that makes sense? 

If I really had to answer you question, regarding different digital camera, if I had to chose one, it would be the SL2-S, because it can do everything the Q and M can do, and ten times more. But it wouldn't make me happy. Because sometimes the right tool is the M, or the Q. 

If budget is a limitation, you will have to tell me more about what you like to shoot if you want me to give you the right advice... 

Thank you so much, Steve, for a thoughtful reply. Much appreciated.

My journey post Nikon film SLR (since 12 years old, now 43) and Nikon DSLR has been:

Leica Q -> M262/50Lux -> M262/35Lux -> M246/35Lux -> Q-P -> Q2M

I’m non pro but love my daily personal photography. Try to document my daily life with my family. Freezing memories and telling stories like a small photo diary. Conveying mood and emotion. Really inspired by Peter Turnley, Mary Ellen Mark and the like.

I actually only shoot JPEG and try to shoot SOOC. I know it’s a sin around here. But I love shooting and mastering composition and light and hate being stuck behind a screen. Don’t get me wrong and really appreciate color grading work from pros like you. 😊

B&W is my first love hence back to it with Q2M. Now kind missing the M experience as well. So should I just get a M240/M262 or even M-D to get experience or spring for a M10-P? Still loving your M10R BP 😊 If you sell it when the M11 arrives, perhaps we can talk 😃 I live in Copenhagen, Denmark, so no cross atlantic taxes.

Have also considered a used MP240 Safari set, as I love the look and it will brass nicely too. 😃

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27 minutes ago, Steven said:

Here's a throwback of a portrait I took of PT a couples months ago, on a cold sunny winter morning in Paris. 

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Man, you met Peter and took this image - love it!!!

Just got his Covid-19 Book today - so great and inspiring…

Am I totally insane for not shooting and developing RAW/DNG? Why M10D over MD262 or just M10/P?

My previous reason for switching back to Q from M, was my frustration with their service… My M246 needed calibration and sent 35FLE along with it for service. Came back with dust on sensor, rangefinder still misaligned and aperture ring on lens misaligned. So one more time back to Wetzlar, and I ended up simply losing faith.

But now I slightly miss the romantic notion of shooting M, although I must say the Q2M is the best camera I have ever shot. 

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I am not afraid to shoot straight into the sun with this lens. I love the flare.

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