Guest stnami Posted July 13, 2007 Share #41 Posted July 13, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I can't see Sony being in the SLR business for too much longer if they only have 2% of the market.... too bad it took Minolta out of the equation along the way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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carstenw Posted July 13, 2007 Share #42 Posted July 13, 2007 ... too bad it took Minolta out of the equation along the way Well... Minolta's incompetence took themselves out, and Sony merely picked up the bits. Minolta was one of those companies with some great ideas, some great products, some poor execution, and a lot of failures along the way. In the days of the Olympus OM2n and Canon AE-1, I looked at the Minoltas and found them terribly Mickey Mouse, all focused on gadgets and electronics before the general public really accepted it. Too bad Sony bought Minolta and not Pentax or Nikon. They had some nice ideas which would have good to see in competent products. The Sony feels horrible in my hands, at least. The rubber covering on the grip seems perpetually to come unstuck just below the trigger. Poor design. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
total_recall Posted July 13, 2007 Share #43 Posted July 13, 2007 "Who is still using their 5D along the M8 ?" whenever i need a camera - that provides reliable framing; - that has next to perfect maxtrix metering; - that has fast autofocus; - with ultrafast (f1.4) wide angle lenses; - with image stabilizing tele lenses i use my 5D. in other words: always. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter L Posted July 13, 2007 Author Share #44 Posted July 13, 2007 I actually sold my 5D and lenses when I bought the M8, except for some Leica R lenses that I used on the 5D. I now sort of miss that camera, when I examine the images from the 5D. I could buy another one with a rebate, for the same price that I sold mine for. I don't find that camera "plasticky" as some have mentioned, nor do I find the images "plasticky", in fact the image quality is very good , as good as the M8, perhaps different. The 5D lies comfortably in the hand and is not much heavier than the M8 and is not that much bigger than a M8 with one of the larger lenses. Most importantly, the 5D has made me a good bit of money, so, I'll probably buy another 5D to be used along with the M8. Best Regards Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted July 13, 2007 Share #45 Posted July 13, 2007 I'm sure we'll see in the next couple of months, maybe a year or so ... Who is still using their M8 along the M9? Who is still using their M8 along the D3x? Who is still using their M8 along the 5D2? Who is still using their M8 along the 1Ds3? Who is still using their M8 along the R10? ... Lots of fun, the one thing that really matters is the depth of your pocket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted July 13, 2007 Share #46 Posted July 13, 2007 I'm sure we'll see in the next couple of months, maybe a year or so ... Who is still using their M8 along the M9? Who is still using their M8 along the D3x? Who is still using their M8 along the 5D2? Who is still using their M8 along the 1Ds3? Who is still using their M8 along the R10? ... Lots of fun, the one thing that really matters is the depth of your pocket. Well maybe along side the M9 but the only reason I bought the Nikon D200 was becasue at the time of purchase there was NO Leica M digital and or no Leica digital I wanted to own. That has changed and the Nikon is sitting in it's bag draining the batteries. I check it every week or so and replace the battery about once a month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted July 13, 2007 Share #47 Posted July 13, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Funny I was so close to buying a Fuji S5 that i have a extra battery brand new for it sitting here and could not pull the trigger on it because i knew it would sit and just drain batteries. Not sure why i still have the extra battery. LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicaiste Posted July 13, 2007 Share #48 Posted July 13, 2007 Just curious to see if the Canon 5D is still used after acquiring the Leica M8 and if so, how often. I'm using the 5D much more since I have the M8. The main reason is that I trust the 5D, and that I will never take the M8 for something really important. I love the M8, but I don't trust it. I'll take the M8 for a city trip in Europe, but not for 3 weeks in Asia. I'll use the M8 for a week-end with friend, but not for a wedding. I think I need a backup ! An M8 a la carte. ;-) P.S. I never had a single problem with my M8 in more than 6 months. It's only in my mind... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Marks Posted July 13, 2007 Share #49 Posted July 13, 2007 M8 & 5D are a great combination for me. I'd say that they compliment rather than exclude one another. The harder question is what to do with my R-D1, which I have hardly used since buying the M8. Originally, I thought I'd keep it as a backup to the M8 (given the camera's rocky start globally). Also there are certain lenses I can use on my R-D1 (DR 50) that I can't use on my M8 (at least not in normal mode) . . . but the 5D compliments a RF nicely as its strengths are so different from the M8's. Last weekend I was using a Canon 5D with longer Nikon glass (105/2.5, 135/2.8, 180/2.8) via an adapter and an M8 with a Noctilux, CV 15 and Leica 75/2. Great stuff. Ben Marks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM-25 Posted July 13, 2007 Share #50 Posted July 13, 2007 I have two 5D's, they are my workhorses for digital. I had an M8 for about a month but just could not dig the IR filters ( very noticeable red tint that gives you away for street work ) the strange battery behavior and worst of all, the cropping of my 28/2 & 50 asph. I use the 28/2 and 50 ASPH on my M6TTL, M3 and MP-3, they are well placed there and give the images the Leica folks designed them for. The I/Q I get from my 5D's with the 24 & 35 1.4 and 85 1.2 simply can't be touched by the M8. They are sharp, low noise full frame images, simply brilliant. Bring on the M9!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted July 13, 2007 Share #51 Posted July 13, 2007 "Who is still using their 5D along the M8 ?" whenever i need a camera - that provides reliable framing; Actually, that's one thing that I'd like to see in a successor to my 5D - accurate framing, as I had with my 1Ds. Canon has reserved that for the 1-series bodies so far but I'd love to see a 100% finder in the 5D's successor. I'd also like to see environmental seals, as Nikon gave the D200 (their "baby pro" body). I deeply appreciate and respect my 5D but I don't love to work with it the way I love to work with my M8 (or R-D1 prior to that). Rangefinder photography really is a different animal and, for some of us, its "just right". Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexanderruas Posted July 13, 2007 Share #52 Posted July 13, 2007 I find that they complement each other. I just came back from a street shoot in Hong Kong and I worked all week with my Canon 5D with a 24/2.8 for landscapes and shots of people with lots of background and the M8 and a 35/1.4 for close up portraits. a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveEP Posted July 13, 2007 Share #53 Posted July 13, 2007 I don't have a 5D, but do have a 1Ds2, and use it for model shoots, some product shots and other stock type shots from time to time. There are advantages (like framing and resolution) that the 1Ds2 brings to the party that the M8 can't at this time. I have 2 M8s now, with 8 lenses from 15mm to 135mm, so it's not like I am 'playing' at being an M8 owner. When I go walkabout or on vacation, or in fact general photogaphy stuff, the M8 is my camera of choice. But sometimes, not very often, but sometimes, the 1Ds2 is the better tool for the job, and I am glad I kept it (along with the 15mm Fisheye, 24-70L, 70-200 f2.8L IS and TSE-90). The rest I sold However, EVERY TIME I pick up the 1Ds2 I am glad I have an M8. The extra weight of the DSLR just about kills my wrist after only a few minutes now. Boy, how quickly we get out of shape! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter L Posted July 14, 2007 Author Share #54 Posted July 14, 2007 So, I picked up a 5D today, took some shots, 5D with Leica R 50 summicron, M8 with M 50mm summicron, Iso 160 both, no difference in IQ, resolution, sharpness, once the images were equalized for WB, both outstanding cameras, the 5D a lot less finicky. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevme Posted July 15, 2007 Share #55 Posted July 15, 2007 I stick the 70-200 mm L zoom on my 10D and get the equivalent of a 320 mm zoom lens because of the sensor size factor. I use the 10D for face shots mostly. The M8 does everything else and is what I use most of the time, though both go with me (for crowd shots). BTW, I find the M8 with the 28mm 2.8 pancake is a stealth "telephoto" lens, in that I can tightly crop a picture and still get fine results. In effect, the cropped portion becomes a telephoto picture. Also, the M8 is faster to shoot with than the 10D, because with hyperfocussing I can instantly trigger the shutter and still get my shot; I don't have to wait for the autofocus to lock (that is, provided that camera has not gone to sleep on me). I have gotten some beautiful images off those L lenses, though, with great sharpness. The problem with using the 10D though, is that shooting with it is like looking through a tube, you don't see what's going on around you. I will add one other thing, and I think there is some info somewhere on the web to back this up -- the 10D does a really remarkable job in low light, better than the M8, where noise really gets bad at 2500 ISO. I think there is a comparison on the web with the 20D and the I D IIs, and the 10D holds its own in low light against its bigger, and newer, brothers. I just got my 35 lux back from coding, and it will accompany me on the next night shot so I can see how it does compared to the 28 2.8. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptruman Posted July 15, 2007 Share #56 Posted July 15, 2007 Still use the 5D although the battery usually needs recharging when I pick it up... Its used when I need a lens longer than about 100mm - for macro or the big lenses. Otherwise the M8 does everything else, which in reality is most of the time. I also prefer the look of the images from the Leica glass, especially the Cron lenses. Suppose I should think about parting with some of the shorter Canon glass given the amount of use they don't get. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_Flesher Posted July 15, 2007 Share #57 Posted July 15, 2007 Had a 5D and bought the M8. Used the M8 for a few days and sold it and bought a second 5D. And now I just bought an M8 again... So for me, I'll definitely use both Probably most of the time use a 21 or 35 on the M8 and 50 or 85 on the 5D. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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