schmolinski Posted March 15, 2018 Share #21 Posted March 15, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello, Hope my advice helps a little. I can tell you, that the 50 lux @ f/1.4 bokeh is different from the 50 cron, and the bokeh of the Lux comes closer to the bokeh of the Q than the cron does. But to be honest, if you are going not only for bokeh, than the 50 cron is great. I owned all of them, the 50 Lux I still have, the 50 cron was my starter, and I owned the Q two times. I switched to the CL since it is more versatile and I can use my M lenses with adapter. If you are not a pro, than Leica is a journey. It takes quite some time to find the perfect lens (and camera) for your need. And one can't own enough lenses since all glas from Leica is superb! So, to save you money buy a 50 cron along with your M10. And don't think what lens would be better or if the bokeh is good enough. Concentrate on one lens for one year and learn to handle your camera. This is way more important than the number of lenses you own. Good luck 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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geddon_jt Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share #22 Posted March 16, 2018 Hello, Hope my advice helps a little. I can tell you, that the 50 lux @ f/1.4 bokeh is different from the 50 cron, and the bokeh of the Lux comes closer to the bokeh of the Q than the cron does. But to be honest, if you are going not only for bokeh, than the 50 cron is great. I owned all of them, the 50 Lux I still have, the 50 cron was my starter, and I owned the Q two times. I switched to the CL since it is more versatile and I can use my M lenses with adapter. If you are not a pro, than Leica is a journey. It takes quite some time to find the perfect lens (and camera) for your need. And one can't own enough lenses since all glas from Leica is superb! So, to save you money buy a 50 cron along with your M10. And don't think what lens would be better or if the bokeh is good enough. Concentrate on one lens for one year and learn to handle your camera. This is way more important than the number of lenses you own. Good luck Great advice that I’m going to follow to the T. I called up Tamarkin camera intending to buy a used Lux 1.4 ASPH along with the camera and even committed to buy it. A few minutes later, the salesman called me back to tell me that in his opinion the condition of the lens wasn’t quite up to the condition rating on the website and he just wanted me to know so i was comfortable. It was a sign, I said lets just go with the standard cron 2.0 instead. I am going to get some serious use out of that lens and I think it will be a great starter lens for really learning the M system ! Thank you. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 17, 2018 Share #23 Posted March 17, 2018 The 75 APO Cron is a fantastic lens too and well worth considering to pair with a 28. I think it’s even better quality than the 50 Summicron (non APO). It would allow you to get a bit closer to some details on the pinball tables. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpagr Posted March 18, 2018 Share #24 Posted March 18, 2018 With the Leica-M-Lenses you nearly can't make a mistake. When they are not too old (for example uncoated pre-war-lenses) and not too dirty you loose no money. So just start and try. I like to take photos of my family and I personally own a Q and nearly the whole 50mm range for my M, 1.0, 1.4 pre ASPH, 1.4 ASPH, 2x2.0, 2.3 and a 3.5. I love most the 1.4 because of the great bokeh (important for the family portraits) and it is not so big like the 1.0. In most cases I take the 1.4 ASPH because of its integrated shade hood (simple to use and compact). It is my favorite Leica-lense indeed. If you want to save money, buy used bodies and used lenses. You save most of the money buying a M (240) instead of the M10. The Sensor is quite the same (24MP) and it has also live-view, for me the most important thing because with live-view you get the possibility to use fantastic Leica-R-Line-lenses for in most cases very low budget. I recommend urgently the APO 2.3/100 and the APO 3.4/180, THEY ARE THE MUST HAVE when you have the M-body. Good luck and a lot of fun with your family photos! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpagr Posted March 18, 2018 Share #25 Posted March 18, 2018 The 75 APO Cron is a fantastic lens too and well worth considering to pair with a 28. I think it’s even better quality than the 50 Summicron (non APO). It would allow you to get a bit closer to some details on the pinball tables. I agree, in the case I have a Q and a M with only one lens and nothing else! The Q-photos are in most cases still good for 50mm and the rest I have to walk two or three steps forward or backward to get the right photo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted March 19, 2018 Share #26 Posted March 19, 2018 Small lenses are easier to carry, fit in smaller spaces in camera bag, and for most casual work aperture 4 to 11 are sufficient. if you plan on doing indoor sports with the M, BUY THE fast heavy one. If you like the current slim depth of field fad, buy the heavy fast one. My go to lenses for just a hike or weekend are 35 ASPH 2.0, 50 2.8 elmar m, 90 4.0 macro elmar. Boost the ISO or use a tripod if you must. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geddon_jt Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share #27 Posted March 25, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well I've had my M10 and the Summicron 50 f/2.0 for over a week now. Could not be happier. The images that I'm getting out of this camera are mind blowing. Very happy with the choice. Thanks again everyone for the great input!! Maybe I'll report back in a few months with which lens to save up for next... haha 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay968 Posted April 16, 2018 Share #28 Posted April 16, 2018 The current 50 Summicron is a very nice lens, better than most 50s out there. The current 50 Summilux is one of the (if not THE) best 50s ever made. It especially shines when used wide open. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleswolford Posted May 3, 2018 Share #29 Posted May 3, 2018 I am also a Q owner and own the 50mm Summilux ASPH and the 50mm Summarit f/2.4. I think the Summarit is a highly capable lens and is very sharp at all apertures. I actually prefer it to the Summilux due to the size/weight and the shorter focus throw. It has nice contrast and can be found in like-new condition for around $1,000 USD. I would recommend that also because the f/2.4 isn't really a huge limitation since the ISO performance is really great on the M10. Unless you're really after that signature 'Lux bokeh, the Summarit is a nice choice. Charles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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