Jamie Roberts Posted June 29, 2007 Share #21 Posted June 29, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) No--you don't have to process RAW to get an excellent WB every time with the M8. BUT--you cannot use "Average Wrong Balance" as a Nikon pro I know calls it You need to shoot a custom White Balance if you're shooting JPEG. Simple as that, really, and takes a moment. If you cant do that, for heaven's sake just put the thing on Daylight and switch to Tungsten--like you would for film. AWB is broken on the M8, for sure--it's not primitive, Ken, it's broken. And while I'm glad there's a firmware fix in the works, there are many better ways to skin that particular cat, even if you're just out snapping around. (Having said that, the Canons have, for my money, the best AWB out there. What's annoying to a lot of people is just how tweakily off they are too, under anything but the most reasonable circumstances (daylight, that is)). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guy_mancuso Posted June 29, 2007 Share #22 Posted June 29, 2007 Now that non one is listening because i do want to see it fixed but after about 5800 images in 16 days it seemed hardly a issue. Yes a couple went south but don't let this get out and i admit mostly outside but also night stuff too. Don't spread this around, don't want anyone to think my M8's have good AWB. LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted June 29, 2007 Share #23 Posted June 29, 2007 I don't think WB is such a huge issue. Maybe its because I do shoot RAW almost all the time, using small jpgs solely for reference or for occasional emailing. I find AWB works decently well outdoors. Indoors, not so, requiring the tungsten setting (which still needs work). I will also use "flash" for flash indoors (but not when using flash outdoors). All of this is not so terribly different than working with the 5D. The Canon tungsten isn't much better than the Leica's. For tricky mixed lighting I use an expodisc and a custom WB, but I would say I've done this pretty infrequently. If they improve it in the next firmware, great. If not, I'll live with it as it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahl Posted July 9, 2007 Share #24 Posted July 9, 2007 If I am not happy with the appearance of the review on the LCD I just set the WB manually with a white card I keep in the camera bag. It works just fine especially in mixed lighting. This seems much less work than altering the raw files. Incidentally I shoot in raw + jpeg at all times as it is then easier to assess my photos quickly and only convert the ones I like. Alain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsjxyz Posted July 10, 2007 Share #25 Posted July 10, 2007 I am using Expodisc, and would recommend it to all of M8 users. It took WB as well as correct exposure (function as grey card). JSJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMB Posted July 10, 2007 Share #26 Posted July 10, 2007 Somebody of you has realize if the WB changes (better or worse) when are there IR/UV filters in the lenses? Second question: Does WB change (better or worse) if the exposure is right or wrong? Francisco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted July 10, 2007 Share #27 Posted July 10, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Somebody of you has realize if the WB changes (better or worse) when are there IR/UV filters in the lenses? Second question: Does WB change (better or worse) if the exposure is right or wrong? Francisco. Francisco, Auto white balance will compensate for when a filter is present, especially if you are using lens recognition + UV/IR. If you are using manual white balance, you will need to reset it, if you put a filter on, when you have set the manual white balance with filter off and the same if you take a filter off, when you have set manual WB with filter on. Auto WB on the M8 when used with a B+W 486, can give quite a heavily saturated green look. The Leica filters do not seem as bad in this respect. On the instructions for my Expodisc, they say it is essential to take the WB setting shot at the correct exposure. You can just use the Auto setting on the shutter speed dial and a mid range f number. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMB Posted July 10, 2007 Share #28 Posted July 10, 2007 Thank you Wilson for your exhaustive explanation. Francisco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted July 10, 2007 Share #29 Posted July 10, 2007 I shoot Canon DSLR (5D / 1D2) + M8 side by side and post process in LR. Once they're imported I can't tell the difference. On import I use LR default for the Canon's - Adobe really are on Canon's side here + a custom LR settings for the M8 (basically Auto WB / Brightness / Contrast 25 / Clarity 10 / Vibrance 17 / No sharpening / Luminance NR 0 / Colour NR 25. Viewing with a colour correct monitor I can only tell which camera was used for which shot by looking at exif. Good enough for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted July 10, 2007 Share #30 Posted July 10, 2007 You should be able to tell the difference if you make heavy adjustments, no? They don't treat colours the same in my experience, nor highlights, and if you start departing from small adjustments, their individual characters must show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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