Is Summaron F5.6 a 'point and shoot' lens?

[reddot925]

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I'm not sure if the lens is intended for this use but can it be?

 

For casual days out does 28mm and F5.6 set to hyperfocal focus , am I understanding correctly that anything further than around 1+ meter will be more or less in focus?

 

Perhaps used with the Monochrom and the higher ISOs would also allow it to use in moderately low light as well (not low light of course)

 

Thank you for any clarification!

[a.noctilux]

Yes with some other 28mm too (close aperture to f/5.6 or less ).

 

With mine M10 + Visoflex 020 + 28 Summaron-M , I try to figure out deep of field, that is very large.

Only rely on the dof marks on lens may not be for digital use.

Use one or more stops for that.

In my use, stop to f/11 and distance setting to 3m, sharpness acceptable from 1.5m to far away.

 

The good news is the "gentle move of sharpness" from near to far that is unique to this lens (and other Summaron 35mm that I use) in 28mm.

This means that with high ISO on MM, perceived sharpness/contrast may be more than calculated.

 

A lens to try and love or not .

[01af]

Last time I checked, all 28 mm M lenses still were provided with aperture rings, with f/16 as their minimum aperture. So, any wide-angle lens can be used as point-and-shoot lens; a Summaron-M 28 mm not specifically required.

[adli]

The big advantage of the Summaron is the size, which makes it perfect for street shooting in good light conditions. Any 28 at f/8 will be a good "point and shoot", but the size of i.e. the 28 lux makes it less discreet.

 

I was very close to buying the Summaron for street use, but after testing it, I found the rather small aperture a constraint. On may ocations I needen a faster lens. So now I am strugling between the Elmarit and the cron.

[spydrxx]

There is no such thing as a "point & shoot lens". You can use almost any lens for "point & shoot applications, if you accept that the strongest point of focus will be at only one spot with either side of that spot diminishing (think bell shaped curve), but covered by DOF if you set your aperture accordingly. I've found that in the digital world, with pixel peeping and all, that hyperfocal distance shooting is narrower than with film. So to answer your question, yes that lens, as well as many others, will workfor P&S applications, but I'd set it at f/8-11 for best results.

[ramarren]

I use a Skink f/47 Zone Plate as my "point and shoot" lens in decent light. No focusing, no controls on the lens at all, just set ISO 6400, Auto shutter speed, and go shoot. It has about a 24mm FoV and makes the M-D pocketable. 

 

(Oh yes: don't expect high resolution... )

[bocaburger]

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You can stop any of the 28's down when you need more DOF.   Unlike the others, you can't open the Summaron up past 5.6 when you need less DOF.  That and the cost is what keeps me off it.  (Well, tbh, the cost keeps me off any new Leica glass in recent history).

[james.liam]

The tiny CV 3,5/28 (assuming you can find one), functions nicely as a discrete optic that easily doubles as a P&S, providing exemplary image quality.

[NB23]

All 28mm lenses behave the same at the same aperture.

 

A Summi, a Cron, a Ron, a Milux. All will show the same dof at the same aperture.

 

Yeah, even a Milux.

[james.liam]

All 28mm lenses behave the same at the same aperture.

A Summi, a Cron, a Ron, a Milux. All will show the same dof at the same aperture.

Yeah, even a Milux.

Quite a display of acronyms.

[01af]

All 28 mm lenses behave the same at the same aperture.

You're kidding, right?

[NB23]

You're kidding, right?

Absolutely not.

 

Please demostrate me the difference between a 28 Ron, a 28 summi, a 28 ilux and a 28 cron, all shot at f5.6. And then, all shot at f11.

 

Physics are physics.

[NB23]

Quite a display of acronyms.

I'm most proud of the "Ron".

[james.liam]

I'm most proud of the "Ron".

So would an Elmarit be an "Elmo"?

An Elmar presents linguistic challenges. Though a Super Elmar might be "SupeE".

[01af]

Physics are physics.

 

In my experience, this hackneyed saying usually comes from those who have just a rudimentary idea about physics.

[NB23]

In my experience, this hackneyed saying usually comes from those who have just a rudimentary idea about physics.

What can be more rudimentary than a lens? I mean c'mon.

 

But again, prove it.

[otto.f]

I just think that the re-release of the Summaron 28 is a ridiculous nostalgic, would-be arty initiative. As bocaburger said, it's a waste of money where you can stop down all your 28's from Elmarit to Summilux to 5.6, the Elmarit being small enough and more handy to focus; especially when you compare it to a Summaron with its hood on which is not more than normal. I don't see any difference between an optic vignetting and a digital vignetting in postprocessing. For collectors, I think the old version is probably much more interesting in your show-case because the old graphics of the characters are much more interesting. I can see some value in bringing out special designs of bodies, like saphari versions, or Bhumibol Golden M6's, etc. which are a real gag, but with lenses I really see no use.

[pico]

Perhaps this is a case, as mentioned earlier, where a certain lens design drifts in and out-of-focus (OOF) in a pleasant manner unlike some later designs which practically explode the OOF into an unpleasant highly contrasted image.

 

Just saying.

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[james.liam]

I just think that the re-release of the Summaron 28 is a ridiculous nostalgic, would-be arty initiative. As bocaburger said, it's a waste of money where you can stop down all your 28's from Elmarit to Summilux to 5.6, the Elmarit being small enough and more handy to focus; especially when you compare it to a Summaron with its hood on which is not more than normal. I don't see any difference between an optic vignetting and a digital vignetting in postprocessing. For collectors, I think the old version is probably much more interesting in your show-case because the old graphics of the characters are much more interesting. I can see some value in bringing out special designs of bodies, like saphari versions, or Bhumibol Golden M6's, etc. which are a real gag, but with lenses I really see no use.

 

 

Methinks of more practicable and marketable interest would be a refresh of the 50 Rigid and 35 Summicron v.1. 

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[Exodies]

I have the new summaron 28 for my silver M 240. It looks great. Leave the hood at home. Camera with it on fits in a jacket pocket. It operates very well. The pictures are excellent. Sometimes vignetting needs to be corrected but not with all scenes. I'm completely satisfied with it and don't have a hunger for another 28. Oh, there is one niggle - I don't like centre weighted exposure on wider than 35 so there is some manual exposure setting faffing about at the start of a session.