jaapv Posted June 21, 2007 Share #21 Posted June 21, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) So what is new? Since the day camera builders started filling up the consumer cameras with little Japanese goblins that do the thinking for the great unwashed, artisan tools like Leica M cameras have been bashed as lesser cameras for a higher price. You know - these critics are right. In their hands a P&S is sure to return far better results than a M8, or at least better in the TV-eroded mind? of the average couch potato. Even the best photographs taken with an M8 ( or Canon 1DsIII etc. for that matter) are likely to be met with a blank stare of incomprehension. The only difference is that this group has attained a larger platform to air their excuses for an opinion. It is more telling about the level DPReview is sinking to, than about the level of the cameras discussed. So let's stop wasting serious bandwidth on this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted June 21, 2007 Share #22 Posted June 21, 2007 So, Joe, these people may be owners of equally expensive Canon rigs that have image stabilization, auto focus, and look more impressive because they are bigger and weigh more, but those are not P&S cameras? For the Canon P&S rigs, I especially like the shotgun mode (15-shot buffer) that guarantees you won't get the right shot. I think Canon's big rigs do 3-4 shots per second. I do dance photog and like to get dancers in the air. A dancer stays at the top of a leap (that position is referred to as "ballon" [2 l's?] ) for maybe 1/200 of a second or less. I know this because I shoot at 1/250 for this purpose and there is always blur in the image of the dancer. That means that the shotgun images, which are 1/4 second apart, just won't get the right image. Let's call a spade a spade -- and then forget this silly discussion. I could not agree more, Bill. An old pro once told me, way back when the motor-driven Nikons came into vogue: So you can take three frames a second. The shutterspeed will be maybe 1/500th. That means you will not be taking a photograph for 98.5 % of the time, practically guaranteeing that you miss the shot. I've never forgotten. I do wildlife. It is much harder the right result of a flying bird with autofocus. I know - I've tried. Very much easier to get average results though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted June 21, 2007 Share #23 Posted June 21, 2007 a P&S is sure to return far better results than a M8, or at least better for 99% of photographers. Leicas have never been easy to use I dont reckon. But you can go so much further with them. Unfortunately most users dont and often defend the indefensible. I still think it a shame Leica didnt hand the lens bayonet and the rangefinder assembly to a competent manufacturer with a performance brief. Hey anyone tried Boags St George? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted June 21, 2007 Share #24 Posted June 21, 2007 That means you will not be taking a photograph for 98.5 % of the time, practically guaranteeing that you miss the shot. Garbage. I watched the Rolex Kentucky Derby and the machine gun started three paces before the jump and didnt stop till two gallops after landing and the images were stellar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 21, 2007 Share #25 Posted June 21, 2007 Garbage. I watched the Rolex Kentucky Derby and the machine gun started three paces before the jump and didnt stop till two gallops after landing and the images were stellar. Hmmm, this garbage works for me... did you see the action wildlife shots I posted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted June 21, 2007 Share #26 Posted June 21, 2007 Nature and wildlife? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted June 21, 2007 Share #27 Posted June 21, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Please dont say the racoon and the snake:eek: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted June 21, 2007 Share #28 Posted June 21, 2007 So let's stop wasting serious bandwidth on this.,,,,,,,,,,, so you are leaving jaap? or at least better in the TV-eroded mind? of the average couch potato.............. what a nice comment there aihhhh....... oh superior one along with Since the day camera builders started filling up the consumer cameras with little Japanese goblins......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted June 21, 2007 Share #29 Posted June 21, 2007 Hey interesting new av there Im...can we see it larger? Storms didnt get you then? Pasha didnt get driven no further up on the beach so I still have a view from my front yard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted June 21, 2007 Share #30 Posted June 21, 2007 Toshiba photocopier............ http://omelthedigitalfish.blogspot.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted June 21, 2007 Share #31 Posted June 21, 2007 I gotta go spend some money so I can photo seagulls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted June 21, 2007 Share #32 Posted June 21, 2007 heyyyyyyy its a mindsurfer. Mind flows. Cant remember my blogspot password...or my account name...One or the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted June 21, 2007 Share #33 Posted June 21, 2007 : .................sit the weather out, check out nobbys beach plenty of tourist scraps there for sammy the seagull and co to fight over .................. I'll bring my photocopier along , when Sammy lands we'll get the racoon to press the button.......should be fun no pointing or shootin...................... jeez that molar is a pain:D ps with all the garbage around due to the rocky weather the fishing is great ..............heaps of bites,......... surfing the square hooks is great as well:rolleyes: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted June 21, 2007 Share #34 Posted June 21, 2007 Tell yo uwhat you have to fight for space. PB is still a draw card. Two Linhofs on the beach last time I went, a thousand digital point and shoots, some bird with a tripod a 400mm lens and a pop up flash on her Canon. What a stallion:rolleyes:. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted June 21, 2007 Share #35 Posted June 21, 2007 She had great tits though. Bag over her head and Vic would review her in here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted June 21, 2007 Share #36 Posted June 21, 2007 If the salvo boys on the PB get a eyefull of the tits it'll probably break up and spill more tha a couple of beans.... better keep things on a leash........just nip behind the bush for a pee.........................as long as it's sanctioned by the makers a lie should ensure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted June 21, 2007 Share #37 Posted June 21, 2007 Yea the SES boys were perving from the roof of the Surf club pavillion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted June 21, 2007 Share #38 Posted June 21, 2007 Pity it's winter other wise the girls would have a ball watching the budgie smugglers expand..... beat shootin gulls as far as they would be concerned............. winter shinkage has well and truely set in otherwise There is some magic, some emotion in their pictures that was never there with any other camera they had. and it's got nothing to do with the camera Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted June 21, 2007 Share #39 Posted June 21, 2007 By the way cheers Joe wish you were here:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted June 21, 2007 Share #40 Posted June 21, 2007 BEST SEAGULLS EVER!!!!!!!!!!!! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! YouTube - U2 - Window In The Skies (second videoclip) Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! YouTube - U2 - Window In The Skies (second videoclip) ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/27091-m8-just-a-glorified-ps/?do=findComment&comment=286750'>More sharing options...
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