Leica M Lenses -- what's up next?

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Please bring the 50mm DR Summicron back. The exact same way it was inside and outside. But this time with the near range working for digital. Danke.

 

 

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The recent limited edition 50 Summilux Black chrome could be a precursor, I like the idea a lot. It could even have optional extra eyes for film only and just use Liveview otherwise.

 

A modern 21mm that focussed closer than the rangefinder coupling would be superb too. 0.7m is a long way at 21mm.

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[luigi bertolotti]

... and of course there is the possibility of the "leaked" 28-75.. which personally I would like to have, if not too costly...

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[justj]

Would love to have a 50mm macro.

[wattsy]

... and of course there is the possibility of the "leaked" 28-75.. which personally I would like to have, if not too costly...

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This lens is of no interest to me personally but I can see that it would be a useful allrounder for many others. Interesting that you post this because this is an example of the type of lens that I refer to in my post above about how a ROM chip system opens up possibilities that are impossible with the 6-bit system of lens recognition. With a ROM chip, the lens could communicate both the focal length and aperture selected and the camera make appropriate adjustments, including some digital corrections of the kind that are done in cameras like the Q and SL. With the 6-bit system, all that can be communicated is the identity of the lens.

[Paulus]

Sorry, my comparison was not with a proposed bi-elmar, but with a bi-summicron, which would be huge provided it spanned a useful focal range like 28-50 or even 35-50, rather than a pretty meaningless 75-90 for instance which would not be much larger than the 90.

 

Interesting, but, I'm afraid that your proposed bi-simmicron would get a little bigger than a 90mm summicron. And about 600 grams or more. Two small 35+50 would be more convenient and economical. The bi- lens goal/advantage would be partly lost here.

[michaelwj]

Interesting, but, I'm afraid that your proposed bi-simmicron would get a little bigger than a 90mm summicron. And about 600 grams or more. Two small 35+50 would be more convenient and economical. The bi- lens goal/advantage would be partly lost here.

 

I'm not 100% sure what you're saying here. Are you agreeing that a bi-summicron makes no sense and a bi-elmar could make sense? The original suggestion was for bi-elmars, and then you mentioned f/2.0 and a quote about rather dying than use lightweight gear? I don't know what is happening 

[stevesurf]

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With the smaller M10, better high ISO performance, I would guess for another compact prime lens, perhaps a remake of the 35 f/3.5 Summaron...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

or even a slow, ultra compact, ultra wide angle prime similar to the Voigtlander 12mm but smaller.

 

[wattsy]

With the smaller M10, better high ISO performance, I would guess for another compact prime lens, perhaps a remake of the 35 f/3.5 Summaron...

 

or even a slow, ultra compact, ultra wide angle prime similar to the Voigtlander 12mm but smaller.

 

 

Yes, if the 28 Summaron sells well (it seems to be a popular at the moment) Leica will have a good incentive to look at other 'vintage' lenses from their back catalogue. My guess is that an extreme wide angle is unlikely. It seems too far out of Leica's historical comfort zone and Leica has a habit of extending the number of lenses available at a given focal length before introducing new focal lengths altogether. With four 28s and five 50s in the catalogue, there is now a glaring hole in the line up of 35mm lenses with only three to choose from . A 35 Summaron or APO-Summicron will have to be brought to market to fill that gap.

[Paul J]

I need fast and slow lenses. Personally I will always consider an f4 or 5.6 lens as much as I would consider 0.95 or 1.4 lenses. There is certainly too much emphasis put on 1.4 these days, I think.

 

Personally I tend to buy a 1.4 or faster first, faster does make them more versatile which is handy, but in terms of image quality they have their boundaries, but some people are lucky enough not to be bothered by those boundaries. Then I buy slower lenses in key focal lengths.

 

But I also have slower lenses instead of faster lenses, just depends.

[Paulus]

I'm not 100% sure what you're saying here. Are you agreeing that a bi-summicron makes no sense and a bi-elmar could make sense? The original suggestion was for bi-elmars, and then you mentioned f/2.0 and a quote about rather dying than use lightweight gear? I don't know what is happening 

 

Bi elmars could make sense for persons willing to sacrifice the large aperture, but not for me.

 

A Bi- summicron makes no sense to me, because of the added weight, with the only advantage; not changing your lens. If, in this case,  you don't want to change the lens and you're not afraid of extra weight, it might be even more sensible to buy a second body.