Einst_Stein Posted August 27, 2017 Share #21 Â Posted August 27, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have bad experiences with non-Leica charger that the battery got shorter life. I Â At first I blames the local store who sold me the battery, He then investgated on the battery then on the charger, found the problem inthe charger. His explanation was rather lengthy, but to put in shprt, it is either the voltage or the output impedance the over drove the battery. Â Be careful if you notice yourchager chages faster or slower than the Leica charger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Einst_Stein Posted August 27, 2017 Share #22 Â Posted August 27, 2017 I have bad experiences with non-Leica charger that the battery got shorter life. Â At first I blames the local store who sold me the battery, He then investgated on the battery then on the charger, found the problem inthe charger. His explanation was rather lengthy, but to put in shprt, it is either the voltage or the output impedance the over drove the battery. Â Be careful if you notice yourchager chages faster or slower than the Leica charger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazytiger Posted August 27, 2017 Share #23 Â Posted August 27, 2017 I have bad experiences with non-Leica charger that the battery got shorter life. Â At first I blames the local store who sold me the battery, He then investgated on the battery then on the charger, found the problem inthe charger. His explanation was rather lengthy, but to put in shprt, it is either the voltage or the output impedance the over drove the battery. Â Be careful if you notice yourchager chages faster or slower than the Leica charger. Â You're speaking about the Nitecore charger or a different model? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted August 28, 2017 Share #24 Â Posted August 28, 2017 I am talking about an M9 charger.No eeroencewith nitecore, but I am assuming same concern. I would use third party charger only on third party battery. SL battery is very expensive, I personally do not see worth to take the risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicaiste Posted August 28, 2017 Share #25 Â Posted August 28, 2017 My Nitecore SL chargers came from this French shop. https://taosphoto.fr/boutique/nitecore-chargeurs-usb/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgo2 Posted August 28, 2017 Share #26 Â Posted August 28, 2017 I am talking about an M9 charger.No eeroencewith nitecore, but I am assuming same concern. I would use third party charger only on third party battery. SL battery is very expensive, I personally do not see worth to take the risk. Â Personally, I'm willing to take a chance on the Nitecore charger. They are advertising it as being specifically for the SL battery, so hopefully they have paid attention to details. Â Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemgb Posted August 28, 2017 Share #27  Posted August 28, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have this charger:  https://www.amazon.com/DigiPower-TC-U400-Universal-Battery-Charger/dp/B007YDMYUA/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1503885179&sr=8-7&keywords=universal+camera+battery+charger  I have used it for a little over 2 years for travelling to charge my 109, Sofort and LUMIX camera batteries, I love just having one charger. I also have this Nitecore:  https://www.amazon.com/NITECORE-New-i4-Intellicharger-EdisonBright/dp/B01LZGD87D/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1503885526&sr=1-3&keywords=nitecore+charger  Obviously this model doesn't charge camera batteries but I have been impressed with its quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted August 28, 2017 Share #28 Â Posted August 28, 2017 I too have no problem to use any charger for cheap batteries, such as AA AAA or third oarty camera battery such as lumux, etc. Â But I will not again use non Leica battery charger to charge SL or TL battery or to use non Leica USB charger to charge directly on the camera. I have burnt my Leica T mother board after charging the batery in the camera with a non Leica USB charger and have put a M9 battery to a short life with a third party M9 battery charger. Â So, my advise is to stick to Leica certificated stuffs with M, SL, TL, etc. You gave paid the premium for the camera, why play cheap? I believe you will not use cheap stuffs that may hurt youe picture quality, why then would you want to use cheap stuffs that might damage your cameta? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazytiger Posted August 28, 2017 Share #29 Â Posted August 28, 2017 I believe you will not use cheap stuffs that may hurt youe picture quality, why then would you want to use cheap stuffs that might damage your cameta? Because this one is a lot smaller and can charge from different sources, both quite welcome when travelling. And batteries are neither rocket science nor do they require expensive ingredients like lenses - Leica peripherial stuff is simply notoriously overpriced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicaiste Posted August 28, 2017 Share #30 Â Posted August 28, 2017 You know, I still have and use the original batteries that I bought in 2005 with my Canon 5D. Used them in the Mark II, III and IV. They are still good at 85%. And I charge them with (excellent) third parties dual chargers. Â The 3 Leica DMR batteries that I also use since 2005 and that I always charged with the Leica dedicated charger didn't last very long. Â [emoji6] Â In this case (Nitecore) the SL charger seems to be more sophisticated and smart than the original. Â And batteries and chargers seems to be one of Nitecore main businesses. Â Also, it is not the price, but the advantages of an USB charger that I like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alo Ako Posted August 28, 2017 Share #31 Â Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) Also, it is not the price, but the advantages of an USB charger that I like. Agree :-)). Leica offers no professional chargers...no USB charger, no dual charger.... Edited August 28, 2017 by Alo Ako Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted August 29, 2017 Share #32 Â Posted August 29, 2017 You know, I still have and use the original batteries that I bought in 2005 with my Canon 5D. Used them in the Mark II, III and IV. They are still good at 85%. And I charge them with (excellent) third parties dual chargers. The 3 Leica DMR batteries that I also use since 2005 and that I always charged with the Leica dedicated charger didn't last very long. [emoji6] In this case (Nitecore) the SL charger seems to be more sophisticated and smart than the original. And batteries and chargers seems to be one of Nitecore main businesses. Also, it is not the price, but the advantages of an USB charger that I like. When the importance of convenience exceeds the importance or cost of battery durability, you have the right choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted August 29, 2017 Share #33 Â Posted August 29, 2017 You know, I still have and use the original batteries that I bought in 2005 with my Canon 5D. Used them in the Mark II, III and IV. They are still good at 85%. And I charge them with (excellent) third parties dual chargers. The 3 Leica DMR batteries that I also use since 2005 and that I always charged with the Leica dedicated charger didn't last very long. [emoji6] In this case (Nitecore) the SL charger seems to be more sophisticated and smart than the original. And batteries and chargers seems to be one of Nitecore main businesses. Also, it is not the price, but the advantages of an USB charger that I like. As long as you are aware of the trade off of battery life and reliability with respect to the convenience, you get what you want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted August 29, 2017 Share #34 Â Posted August 29, 2017 Agree :-)). Leica offers no professional chargers...no USB charger, no dual charger.... If you think so, you deserve what you want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgo2 Posted August 29, 2017 Share #35  Posted August 29, 2017 I received my Nitecore ULSL yesterday. I took a fully charged battery directly from the Leica charger and placed it in the Nitecore. To my surprise, it charged the battery further.  As far as speed is concerned, I think it will depend upon the speed of the USB connection itself. They are not all the same. For instance, my chargers for an iPhone 7 and an iPad Air have different capacities.  In any event, the Nitecore looks to be a quality product that is ideal for traveling. I may even use it for everyday charging at home. Time will tell if it holds up.  Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alo Ako Posted August 29, 2017 Share #36 Â Posted August 29, 2017 The german distributor, KTI GmbH, delivered it today - unfortunately I was absent. So I will pick it up tomorrow at the service station of DHL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazytiger Posted August 29, 2017 Share #37  Posted August 29, 2017 Got mine today. Neat! Half as big as the Leica one and no big cable - the USB one that comes with it is attached to it and can be stored underneath.  Since it is specifically made for the SL battery (even warns in the manual to try charging others), they would be complete morons to design it in a way that destroys the battery. As stated earlier - ain't no rocket science  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicaiste Posted August 29, 2017 Share #38 Â Posted August 29, 2017 As long as you are aware of the trade off of battery life and reliability with respect to the convenience, you get what you want. Thank you. Â [emoji1][emoji1][emoji1] 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgo2 Posted August 29, 2017 Share #39 Â Posted August 29, 2017 As long as you are aware of the trade off of battery life and reliability with respect to the convenience, you get what you want. Â With regard to the Nitecore charger, we cannot yet say that there will be any such trade off. It's a possibility, but not a high probability, IMO. Â Rob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted August 29, 2017 Share #40 Â Posted August 29, 2017 With regard to the Nitecore charger, we cannot yet say that there will be any such trade off. It's a possibility, but not a high probability, IMO. Â Rob You got the point. It is rather new. No one for sure knows whether it is safe or not. If you trust history, then we can onky use other brand and other third oarty charger for refetence. Â The wiseman says, encourage more and more others to be the skinny pigs. Â But if yhe battery is cheap, OK to be the skinny oig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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