carstenw Posted June 18, 2007 Share #1 Posted June 18, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Could someone compare the images from these two lenses, preferably with sample image from the real world, not test images? I am not interested in which lens is "better", more in the subjective look. I am, however, interested in the sharpness in the centre, and if the Nokton has focus shift (I know that there is a strong risk that the Lux does). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 Hi carstenw, Take a look here 35 Summilux Asph vs. Voigtländer 35 f/1.2 Nokton. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
RMF Posted June 18, 2007 Share #2 Posted June 18, 2007 i do not have a 35mm asph to compare my 35mm 1.2 nokton to...but when shooting my nokton wide open and near wide open (f1.2 through f2.0) i have not encountered any focus shift problems. the lens is pretty sharp in the center although not as sharp and with less contrast then my 35 cron. the nokton is a great value for what it is designed to do. i'm happy with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted June 18, 2007 Author Share #3 Posted June 18, 2007 Could you try if it also has no focus shift at around f/4? How sharp is it when stopped down? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidigital Posted June 18, 2007 Share #4 Posted June 18, 2007 Carsten, thanks for including the subjective qualification in your request. Sometimes comparisons get so detailed that it is easy to overlook the whole. I don't have the Nokton, so I can't provide much assistance with a comparison. However, I think that the 35lux has been taking a beating lately with the focus shift issue. Granted, my copy seems to have no shift issues (of course, I'd feel slighted if it did.) For me, the 35lux a lens that continues to amaze with how well it performs (especially wide open.) It provides an overall look that really appeals to me in terms of softness and sharpness transitions, bokeh, color, etc. It seems that the more I try to incorporate other lenses like the 28 or the 35 cron into my shots, the more I reach for the 35lux ... it just has that wow factor I crave in an overall image "look". I'd be curious to hear how others feel about the Nokton, though, as it might provide an economical alternative for others looking at that focal length. Kurt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted June 18, 2007 Share #5 Posted June 18, 2007 Hi Carsten, They're both in the 35s review I'm doing. Might be able to finish this by end of week or early next. Another option to consider is the CV 35/1.7 - just a half-stop slower than an F/1.4 and much smaller and lighter than the Nokton. Also the 1.7 can be used with an LT-M8 adapter for hand-coding. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted June 18, 2007 Author Share #6 Posted June 18, 2007 Yay, Sean! Do you include some portraits or something to judge subjective look? A lot of your shots lie more at the technical end in the reviews. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted June 18, 2007 Share #7 Posted June 18, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yay, Sean! Do you include some portraits or something to judge subjective look? A lot of your shots lie more at the technical end in the reviews. There will be all kinds of pictures. I haven't yet decided what the subject will be for the OOF rendering tests. Best, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted June 18, 2007 Share #8 Posted June 18, 2007 For the OOF tests, I liked the world of wineglasses and pewter implements with a smiling face in the middle, that you used to use. Will she still model for ice cream, or has the price gone out of reach? I've been shooting a lot with the 35/2.0-asph lately. I understand some feel the bokeh is too "caffeinated," but it looks to me as if it makes a complicated background look like a painted stage set, drawn with a broad brush. The result is that it pulls the infocus elements together, and makes a deep background appear like a single layer, For a lot of scenes I like this better than the ideal gentle transition to a mushy background. Just my 2 agorot. cheers, look forward to reading your article. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted June 18, 2007 Share #9 Posted June 18, 2007 For the OOF tests, I liked the world of wineglasses and pewter implements with a smiling face in the middle, that you used to use. Will she still model for ice cream, or has the price gone out of reach? I've been shooting a lot with the 35/2.0-asph lately. I understand some feel the bokeh is too "caffeinated," but it looks to me as if it makes a complicated background look like a painted stage set, drawn with a broad brush. The result is that it pulls the infocus elements together, and makes a deep background appear like a single layer, For a lot of scenes I like this better than the ideal gentle transition to a mushy background. Just my 2 agorot. cheers, look forward to reading your article. scott Hi Scott, My daughter's response, verbatim: "Ice cream? Well ice cream is worth a lot." Chey is 11 now and still quite reasonable and friendly to her parents - amazing. Maybe we'll do those again this week for the 35s. As far as the OOF rendering goes - you know my feeling - there's no one best way. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norm_snyder Posted June 19, 2007 Share #10 Posted June 19, 2007 Hello Carsten-- Not a formal protrait, but shot with the 35mm Nokton at f1.4, i.e 640. I don't have a comparable with my 35mm Summicron v.4 handy, but the sharpness and background are similar, and the contrast seems slightly less with the Nokton, which suits me well for subjects like this, which is exactly why I got it. I just took delivery a couple of weeks ago, and am very happy with the construction, the way it renders. This is from a jpeg with no post-production in PS. As for this lens, I have paired it with a version 1 75mm Summilux for these sorts of subjects, and it seems to have what Sean has called a way of "drawing" which complements the Summilux nicely. My sense is that it has sharpness similar to the previous versions of [Mandler] Leica lenses. Regards, Norm Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/26924-35-summilux-asph-vs-voigtl%C3%A4nder-35-f12-nokton/?do=findComment&comment=284648'>More sharing options...
norm_snyder Posted June 19, 2007 Share #11 Posted June 19, 2007 BTW-- No focus shift, thus far. N. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted June 19, 2007 Author Share #12 Posted June 19, 2007 Gorgeous portrait. Would you post a crop where you focused? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norm_snyder Posted June 20, 2007 Share #13 Posted June 20, 2007 Thanks. The attached is 100% crop, downsampled to 96dpi from 300dpi, with no other post-production, other than conversion to grayscale in PS-CS3 from the DNG file to tif, before downsampling and saving as a jpeg for the web. The focus point was the bridge of the glasses, and if there is perhaps 1/2" focus shift, at this f-stop and what was a distance of perhaps 4 feet, I think I'll be able to live with that. Little experience at smaller f-stops with this lens, but then that is not why I got it. I'll be shooting some more of this continuing project in a couple of days. Regards, Norm Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/26924-35-summilux-asph-vs-voigtl%C3%A4nder-35-f12-nokton/?do=findComment&comment=285477'>More sharing options...
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