Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted December 20, 2016 Share #1 Â Posted December 20, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Sounds perfect for a few days of west coast of Scotland costal photography with the Leica SL and Noctilux........... bring it on[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Â Â Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jrp Posted December 20, 2016 Share #2 Â Posted December 20, 2016 I don't think that the Noctilux is weatherproof. Â I suspect that most of my photography in Edinburgh over the break will either be indoors, or with the native SL lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted December 20, 2016 Share #3  Posted December 20, 2016 I don't think that the Noctilux is weatherproof.i guess we are away to find out. Wait maybe this calls for Leica S and 120mm as they are weather proof but maybe not Scottish weather proof  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD_50 Posted December 20, 2016 Share #4 Â Posted December 20, 2016 I would not try to find out with that lens, given the lack of weatherproofing and the cost. In my opinion, for landscape work it's nothing special in comparison to other 50mm options. The magic is wide open and I wouldn't expect to use razor thin DOF doing coastal photography. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted December 20, 2016 Share #5  Posted December 20, 2016 I disagree. The Noctilux is not only amazing wide open it's also amazing stopped all the way down especially for shooting panoramas   Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD_50 Posted December 20, 2016 Share #6 Â Posted December 20, 2016 I didn't say it's not good stopped down. I said it's nothing special compared to other 50mm options for landscape work (stopped down). Those options are much less costly if you're risking damage in inclement weather. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted December 20, 2016 Share #7 Â Posted December 20, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Ohh it's special it's so so special [emoji7][emoji7][emoji7][emoji7][emoji7] Â Â Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 20, 2016 Share #8  Posted December 20, 2016  Wait maybe this calls for Leica S and 120mm as they are weather proof but maybe not Scottish weather proof     Unlikely to get any worse than David's Iceland adventure....   http://www.reddotforum.com/content/2015/09/my-photographic-adventure-through-iceland-with-the-leica-s-typ007/  The SL and native lenses should perform as well.  Adapted lenses....a crap shoot.  Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted December 20, 2016 Share #9 Â Posted December 20, 2016 I don't have any SL lenses. The whole purpose of buying the SL was to shoot Noctilux which is still my main purpose. I've got my S with me but with only my S120 and Hasselblad 250 supercomputer which is probably also not Weatherford proofs. Â Â Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 20, 2016 Share #10 Â Posted December 20, 2016 Yes, we know, Neil. Â Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted December 20, 2016 Share #11  Posted December 20, 2016 Saying that I'm getting peer pressure to buy the 24/90 even though I know it's not that great a lens......... I just don't need it if I want to shoot landscape I will use S007 or if while traveling I will use Noctilux or the 21mm SCM that I just bought   Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD_50 Posted December 20, 2016 Share #12 Â Posted December 20, 2016 Ohh it's special it's so so special [emoji7][emoji7][emoji7][emoji7][emoji7] Â Â Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I don't know if you're being serious. The Noctilux is designed for the large aperture. The size, weight, focus throw, optics are all designed for wide open use. Compare it to a Summilux stopped down (f2 is enough to compare) and you'll find the Summilux is better, smaller, lighter, and a third the cost. It's got less distortion and better edge sharpness. Â I love the Noctilux and keep finding myself considering to buy it for use with the SL, but I'm realistic about what makes it special. It's not stopped down performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted December 20, 2016 Share #13  Posted December 20, 2016 I'm 100% serious. What comes out of the printer has nothing to do with size f stop or weight it's just a tool for taking pictures and IMOP I find the Noctilux better in every f stop compared to the sumerlux   Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EoinC Posted December 20, 2016 Share #14 Â Posted December 20, 2016 ...which is probably also not Weatherford proofs. Â Â Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Are you taking a casing crew with you, Neil? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 20, 2016 Share #15  Posted December 20, 2016 Saying that I'm getting peer pressure to buy the 24/90 even though I know it's not that great a lens.........  I wouldn't care if you bought it or not, but by all accounts it's a superb lens, one of the best zooms Leica ever made, and likely better than the S zoom.  And the 90-280 SL beast is apparently as good or better than the 24-90.  But you could only know by trying.  I'd probably already own the SL if it had a range of much smaller, lighter weather sealed primes.  But the zoom is not really a compromise optically, from what I've read (including user reports here), although I have no reason to do my own testing.  The 50 SL Summilux might interest you as a substitute 50 for inclement weather.  But it's probably not much smaller than the 24-90.  Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted December 20, 2016 Share #16 Â Posted December 20, 2016 The Noctilux is better at 0.95 :-) and surprisingly good at f2.8 on, but at f1.4/2 the Summilux is the better lens. Â But neither are lenses that will be happy in the windy rain. Â The zooms are much heavier and more robust and both they and the SL Summilux will produce cleaner images (edge resolution, the various types of CA). Â But only you know what type of images you intend to take and the risks to which you are willing to subject your gear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted December 20, 2016 Share #17 Â Posted December 20, 2016 I'm sure I read that Leica said M lenses do not require 'weather sealing' as the mechanical tolerances, and grease used, means they are effectively 'weather sealed'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted December 20, 2016 Share #18  Posted December 20, 2016 My M lenses have always been happy in the worst of the Scottish west coast weather.  I wouldn't worry about a Noctilix. What's the worst that can happen?  Anyway, weather-sealing won't stop a camera (with a lens attached) lens getting blown into the sea: I've seen that happen in a gale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted December 20, 2016 Share #19 Â Posted December 20, 2016 True. 90mph winds expected... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 21, 2016 Share #20 Â Posted December 21, 2016 I'm sure I read that Leica said M lenses do not require 'weather sealing' as the mechanical tolerances, and grease used, means they are effectively 'weather sealed'. Â True (according to Stefan Daniel), but not to the extent of the SL or S system (camera and lenses), which Leica openly praises as weather sealed. Â See the link in post #8 and tell me if you'd run around for days at a time in hard rain and wind with an unprotected M as primary gear for an expensive trip. Â I take my M out in inclement weather, but I wouldn't do with it what David Farkas did with his S in Iceland (although I have insurance that would pay for a repair or replacement). Â Not all weather sealing is created equally....the LenRentals site has some fascinating gear tear-downs from various manufacturers and products to demonstrate. Â Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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