M lens tilt shift

[Asa Aarons]

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I'm using a Silvestri Flexi cam with Hasselblad lenses for landscape and product work . My M240 serves as the digital back. I would prefer to use my Leica M lenses but have been unable to find the proper adapter. Any suggestions?

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[Manolo Laguillo]

M lenses image circle have only a diameter of aprox 42 mm, and can't be used for shifting and tilting at infinity. Therefore, why would you want to use them putting the Flexi Cam between them and the M240? You can get rid of the Flexi Cam...

[Exodies]

Maybe software will do what you need

[EoinC]

Manolo is correct. The image circle is too small to use for shifting. All you will get for your efforts is large amounts of unbalanced vignetting.

[Theodor Heinrichsohn]

I'm using a Silvestri Flexi cam with Hasselblad lenses for landscape and product work . My M240 serves as the digital back. I would prefer to use my Leica M lenses but have been unable to find the proper adapter. Any suggestions?

 

M lenses are not suitable (see EoinC's post). You can use the R shift lenses with the Leica adapter. I use old Nikon 35mm and 28mm shift lenses as well as a 24mm Olumpus shift lens (adapted to Nikon F) with a Nikon to M+ M to SL adapter on the SL. I also have an Hasselblad to Nikon adapter and have used some Hasselblad lenses on the SL. 

I know this is off subject, but might be handy if you go for an SL.

Teddy

[luigi bertolotti]

M lenses are not suitable (see EoinC's post). You can use the R shift lenses with the Leica adapter.

Teddy

Have you directly experienced this combo, Teddy ? Is just a doubt.... I wonder if the length of the R to M adapter does pose some problem when you shift a 35mm or 28mm lens...  (just a speculation... I have the adapter, but don't think to get a R shift lens)

[henning]

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Have you directly experienced this combo, Teddy ? Is just a doubt.... I wonder if the length of the R to M adapter does pose some problem when you shift a 35mm or 28mm lens...  (just a speculation... I have the adapter, but don't think to get a R shift lens)

 

I tried the 28mm Leica R shift lens on the M240, and was rather unhappy with the result. Using a WATE and correcting in software definitely gave better results. Btw, I also tried Canon 17 and 24 TSE lenses and was almost as dissatisfied. I still have 5 shift or tilt-shift lenses, but think I will probably sell all of them as the results in software are generally as good or better (I've also got a Sony A7rII body to try/use theses lenses, and that hardly works better). This only relates to the optical results; mechanically, there are some limitations as well.

[Theodor Heinrichsohn]

Have you directly experienced this combo, Teddy ? Is just a doubt.... I wonder if the length of the R to M adapter does pose some problem when you shift a 35mm or 28mm lens...  (just a speculation... I have the adapter, but don't think to get a R shift lens)

 

Hallo Luigi,

I have used the Nikon shift and the Olympus shift but will re-check the combinations I used. Please be patient for a short time, as I am just fighting a bout of influenza and don't feel to well.

Teddy

[EoinC]

I tried the 28mm Leica R shift lens on the M240, and was rather unhappy with the result. Using a WATE and correcting in software definitely gave better results. Btw, I also tried Canon 17 and 24 TSE lenses and was almost as dissatisfied. I still have 5 shift or tilt-shift lenses, but think I will probably sell all of them as the results in software are generally as good or better (I've also got a Sony A7rII body to try/use theses lenses, and that hardly works better). This only relates to the optical results; mechanically, there are some limitations as well.

I've found my TS-E 24mm MkII works well on an A7R (as I'm sure it does on a SL). I generally use a remote application to do focusing via an iPad.

[Theodor Heinrichsohn]

I tried the 28mm Leica R shift lens on the M240, and was rather unhappy with the result. Using a WATE and correcting in software definitely gave better results. Btw, I also tried Canon 17 and 24 TSE lenses and was almost as dissatisfied. I still have 5 shift or tilt-shift lenses, but think I will probably sell all of them as the results in software are generally as good or better (I've also got a Sony A7rII body to try/use theses lenses, and that hardly works better). This only relates to the optical results; mechanically, there are some limitations as well.

 

Hello Luigi and Henning,

 

Here I am again! Luigi's question kept bothering me, as I have repeatedly used the combinations i mentioned and I therefore got up and looked at my cameras to get a correct and clear answer.

 

1. Leica SL

Zeiss Planar 110 f 2 + Zoerk Hassalblad to Nikon adapter+ Novoflex LEM/NIK NT+ Leica M adapter T

PC Nikkor 28mm 3.5+Novoflex LEM + Leica adapter T

 

2. Leica M 240

PC Nikkor 28 f 3.5 Novoflex LEM

 

3. I have used the PC Nikkor 35mm as well as the Olympus/Nikon conversion several times and they all work well. 

 

I do not own any Leica R or Canon shift lenses.

 

I experimented with the exposure a title to get it right. 

Hope I have cleared up my first possibly misleading post.

Teddy

[henning]

I've found my TS-E 24mm MkII works well on an A7R (as I'm sure it does on a SL). I generally use a remote application to do focusing via an iPad.

 

The TS-E 24mm MkII is really an excellent lens, it's just that when you shift off centre the extreme corner rays become quite steep and the IQ starts breaking down to the point, as I mentioned, that the WATE with software correction makes me happier. With 3-4mm shift it is hardly noticeable, but when using 10-11mm it's quite obvious. Your preferences my be different. It's the same effect (and due to exactly the same reason) that many rangefinder lenses don't work as well on the A7Rii as they do on a Leica. Again, due to the same circumstances, the Canon TSE lenses work a bit better on the Leica than on the Sony, but unfortunately the Leica lens mount becomes an obstacle as it's a bit narrow to allow the full movements of the Canon lenses.

 

Actually, a recount revealed that I still have 7 shift and/or tilt-shift lenses. The Canon 24TSE MkII, the 17TSE, a 90/2.8 TSE, an old Canon 35/2.8 TS that I converted to Konica AR mount in the early 70's, the Nikon 28/3.5 and 35/2.8 PC's and the Mamiya 50/4. I'd forgotten about the Nikon's because the 35 isn't that great or interesting and the 28 lives on a Roundshot 28/22. All interesting and mostly quite good lenses in their own way, and all have been put on the M240 and Sony A7Rii at one point or another except for the Mamiya. I've also now tried the Canon 35/2.8 K-AR mount on the Sony via the TechArt Pro autofocus adapter, mostly to try shooting stuff with extreme tilt. It works quite well, and is definitely geeky and interesting enough to keep me busy for a bit. DIY autofocus Lensbaby.

[Manolo Laguillo]

The Super-Angulon 28 PC, made for the Leica R, works well with M bodies.

 

I am not a technician and don't know exactly why, but not every copy of this lens is flawless, ie equally well on the 4 corners. OK, the same happens with every lens...