sillbeers15 Posted June 14, 2016 Share #21 Posted June 14, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I don't know if the day has passed where the Leica travelling reps would have "favourite" dealers who were prepared to carry stock of slower moving items like new film M bodies. Those dealers always got "first dibs" on new items to the extent that some could sell to people walking in off the street, while other people who had waited months with that item on order at a different, less favoured dealer, were still without. I am not sure Leica Mayfair even has travelling reps like Milton Keynes used to have. Wilson My purchase is through Leica Store directly and not dealers,...that is what pisses me off! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 14, 2016 Posted June 14, 2016 Hi sillbeers15, Take a look here 90-280 is it shipping?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
wlaidlaw Posted June 14, 2016 Share #22 Posted June 14, 2016 My purchase is through Leica Store directly and not dealers,...that is what pisses me off! The Leica Store might well have the longest queue of all and could also be in the unenviable position of trying to keep their dealers happy as well. It could be a bit like children sharing candies "one for you, two for me" Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted June 14, 2016 Share #23 Posted June 14, 2016 Supporting a dealer network must be one of Leica's objectives. If they starve their dealers, their long-term sales will suffer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted June 14, 2016 Share #24 Posted June 14, 2016 In Singapore, there are a couple of Leica Grey Market Importers fighting for market share among Leica Stores & local dealers. It was my deliberate decision to purchase from Leica Store paying more thinking I get better service, less waiting time and better after sales support. After this round of my experience being deprived of my que and forced to accept the following shipment ( the timing Leica store informed me on the arrival of my lens falls into the timing of next shipment,...customers are no dumb fools), I will forego buying from Leica store directly for future purchases. Rather better off enjoying better discounts on pricing buying from grey market importers since the wait time and service provided is no different. I am now convinenced that leica good purchased directly off Leica store will not receive better after sales service support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBM_Photo Posted June 15, 2016 Share #25 Posted June 15, 2016 Got mine from the Leica Boutique at Samy's on Fairfax in LA last week. Was on the list here, and at the Leica Store in LA for several weeks. After I got mine, and cancelled I was only 6th on the list at Leica even after all this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted June 15, 2016 Share #26 Posted June 15, 2016 Got mine from the Leica Boutique at Samy's on Fairfax in LA last week. Was on the list here, and at the Leica Store in LA for several weeks. After I got mine, and cancelled I was only 6th on the list at Leica even after all this time. I think it is all about communication and expectation. I would not be pissed if I were told to wait for six weeks in the beginning and the delivery came in six weeks or less. As a customer, we have kept our side of the agreement and not a moving target like Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivar B Posted June 28, 2016 Share #27 Posted June 28, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I just passed by Meister Leica Store in Berlin. The 90-280 is in stock and I was free to but one should I want to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted June 28, 2016 Share #28 Posted June 28, 2016 Yes ..... my original dealer emailed to say stock has arrived .... so there is at least one possibly spare in the UK as well.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted July 5, 2016 Share #29 Posted July 5, 2016 Well, down here at the bottom of the world, one 90-280 is coming in 4-5 weeks and it could be September before there is another one. I placed my order yesterday, for delivery later in the year (when I will have put aside the requisite pennies). If it's the end of the year or early next, I don't particularly mind. It will come when it comes, that's the Leica world we live in. Cheers John I pick mine up tomorrow. 3 weeks. Sooner than I was ready for ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted July 6, 2016 Share #30 Posted July 6, 2016 Well, we have a system! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Picked it up at lunchtime - fits nicely into the Everyday Messenger. Manufactured 20 June 2016. Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Picked it up at lunchtime - fits nicely into the Everyday Messenger. Manufactured 20 June 2016. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/261366-90-280-is-it-shipping/?do=findComment&comment=3074204'>More sharing options...
kkcsm Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share #31 Posted July 6, 2016 I received mine last Thursday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steppenw0lf Posted July 15, 2016 Share #32 Posted July 15, 2016 Just got mine two hours ago. Leica has increased the price since preordering (end of 2015) by more than 10 percent - booh Leica ! But the dealer (FotoPro GANZ in Zürich) kept his promise and gave it for the preorder price !! That's really great! That makes loyal customers ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VVJ Posted July 15, 2016 Share #33 Posted July 15, 2016 Just got mine two hours ago. Leica has increased the price since preordering (end of 2015) by more than 10 percent - booh Leica ! They did something similar with the 35mm for the Leica T, from $1,950 during pre-order to $2,395 afterwards, almost a 23% increase. Not a very ethical business practice IMHO... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted July 16, 2016 Share #34 Posted July 16, 2016 They did something similar with the 35mm for the Leica T, from $1,950 during pre-order to $2,395 afterwards, almost a 23% increase. Not a very ethical business practice IMHO... Why? They also reduce prices towards the end of a product run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VVJ Posted July 16, 2016 Share #35 Posted July 16, 2016 Why? They also reduce prices towards the end of a product run. As a customer I quite frankly don't appreciate it if a company increases the price with 23% without giving any explanation to its customers whatsoever... It feels like jacking up the price simply because they can which obviously is their good right but it is also my good right as a customer to frown upon that... I BTW passionately dislike the whole Leica pre-order process with its dealer favoritism and waiting lists that are already filled before they become available online... I in most cases prefer not to participate in that and buy the goods when they are available in the stores 6 months later... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted July 16, 2016 Share #36 Posted July 16, 2016 Well, prices go up, prices go down ... Leica's supply system has always been plagued with favouritism, from what I can tell. Again, not uncommon for in demand goods - Ferrari similarly is selective about who gets its top cars (a bit extreme, I know). My dealer also held to the price I ordered at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steppenw0lf Posted July 16, 2016 Share #37 Posted July 16, 2016 The dealer held to the price I ordered at, but Leica at the same time did not hold to the price the dealer ordered at. So I am happy despite the late delivery, but only thanks to this dealer and despite Leicas price increase that would normally have caught me on the false foot. (order placed, no alternative) New orders and deliveries are another story. I remember that some comments were made that the SL 90-280 was relatively "low" priced compared to earlier R lenses and to the M lenses in general. Yes, maybe, if the price is not increased before delivery. How are your expectations if you order a car, that usually also needs several months until delivery ? I think the expectations are probably ambivalent: We expect to pay "contract price" at most. Contract price if prices have been increased in meantime. New better deal if prices have gone down in meantime (currency fluctuations etc.). Agree ? Anyway Leica prices are difficult to explain or compare. The 35mm AA was about 4000 DM/2000 euro when bought in the beginning nineties (after 2 years of "student jobs", it was then an enormous sum). Now it is almost as expensive as a new noctilux, like a small car. The Apo 2.8/280 a few years later cost a real fortune (2.5x as much) and can now be had for 2000 dollar or little more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kikouyou Posted July 17, 2016 Share #38 Posted July 17, 2016 Well, we have a system! FullSizeRender.jpg Picked it up at lunchtime - fits nicely into the Everyday Messenger. Manufactured 20 June 2016. What everyday messenger is that the 13" or the 15"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted July 17, 2016 Share #39 Posted July 17, 2016 Good question - no idea. The order says "SKU: BS-BL-1" if that helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted July 17, 2016 Share #40 Posted July 17, 2016 B&H lists mfg #... 15": BS-BL-1 13": BS-13-BL-1 The bigger one is the original design; the smaller one followed. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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