ozdavid Posted July 8, 2007 Share #21 Posted July 8, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have recently tried a different Crumpler combination after looking at the 5 and 6 million dollar varieties. I acquired a messenger bag and the bucket (bounty/western) as an insert. It is light, doesn't look like a camera bag and, with four effective layers is pretty waterproof. I can fit an M8, M7, WATE, 28 'cron, 35 'lux, 50 'cron, 75 'cron and cv 12 together with SF20 and Finder in the bucket with no lens stacking and filters spare battery etc in the internal pockets of the messenger bag. When wandering, I sometimes leave the bucket behind and take what I need for the day in the Messenger bag. It is both easier to carry and less inviting to light fingered "friends" than either my Billingham 335 or Fogg bags which I now only use for my R gear. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DES Posted July 8, 2007 Share #22 Posted July 8, 2007 I have the same problem as you...I now want to travel light and take just what I need... I have found an ideal solution The Evans Walker bag from Artisan & Artist It is 250mm long 160mm tall and 140mm wide and is made op canvas..It does not look like a camera bag Give it a look. Des Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
popum Posted July 9, 2007 Share #23 Posted July 9, 2007 The problem is when you try to add a laptop to the gear. Any good answers here? Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricC Posted July 9, 2007 Share #24 Posted July 9, 2007 After having tried several bags, i've decided that i like this one best. It's the Domke F-803. It does not look too much like a camera bag and has that special 'I hardly know it's there' Domke feeling to it. It carries my M8, six lenses and stuff like the magnifier and spare batteries. I can also put my wallet and my car stereo front in there. Bags are very personal. You should really try different bags to find out what suits you best. Here's a another bag thread: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m8-forum/7657-lets-talk-bags-m8.html I use the J803 version of this bag. It is slightly larger, has more pockets including a rear one for magazines and is in ballistic nylon. I have used it with either two M bodies lenses attatched and two other lenses back to back or a single M with lens and four other lenses back to back using the 3 compartment insert. All of this is in the main compartment and leaves tons of room for other gear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth_c Posted July 9, 2007 Share #25 Posted July 9, 2007 Does anyone know of any companies that just sell inserts? I have a raft of bags but want some imple inserts that can be used across all of them. I would have thought it would be a standard thing to buy...apparently not! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricC Posted July 9, 2007 Share #26 Posted July 9, 2007 Domke just sell the inserts (available here :Robert White - Bags & Cases) , and as far as i know so do Artisan & Artist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted July 9, 2007 Share #27 Posted July 9, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Like lots of other people, I have lots of bags. But the one I have found works best is a Billingham Hadley Pro. You can stuff it if you'd like, but its small enough to be quite manageable, and doesn't really look like a camera bag. I just came back from a trip and I had an M8, WATE, Tri-Elmar, 35mm cron, 90mm macro, 75mm CV, 12mm CV, plus SF20, a bunch of cards, Expodisc, bottle of Eclipse -- and a D-Lux 3 and charger as well. The one thing I did not pack was the M8 charger as I had an extra available where I was going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth_c Posted July 9, 2007 Share #28 Posted July 9, 2007 Thanks for the information, I had finally found the Domke inserts myself. Have ordered a couple that i'm hoping will fit a couple of my bags at least enough to offer more protection than I currently have (usually stuff my camera in a jumper at the top of whatever bag I use)! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlancasterd Posted July 9, 2007 Share #29 Posted July 9, 2007 I have been quite happy with a Lowepro Stealth Reporter 100AW. It's the smallest in that particular line, but has plenty of room for my purposes. I carry the M8 body with a smaller lens attached, plus one or two extra lenses, plus the charger, SD cards, and an extra battery, etc. Here's another vote for the Stealth 100... I carried my M8 outfit in one during a 2-week, rail-based, trip around Germany and Austria during June and it worked exceptionally well. I had no problem in fitting all of the following into it: M8+CV28/1.9 CV35/1.7 + CV21/4 (paired back-to-back) CV50/1.5 + CV15/4.5 (paired) CV90/3.5 SF 24D flashgun Mobile phone (rather old and NOT slimline...) 21 and 28mm viewfinders, spare cards and batteries, blower brush, lens cloth, pens, notebook, travel tickets, itinerary, medication, strategic banana and/or chocolate... I'd been a little worried about the weight of this collection before I went, but it proved to be no problem - especially when carrying the M8+lens round my neck and using the Stealth as a day bag. Incidentally I have my M8 fitted with a CV wide, soft canvas, strap - very comfortable and easy to stow - and I paired the lenses by epoxying two CV rear lens caps together, after sanding off the little lugs and roughing up the surface to give a good key. I carried the charger and Eclipse fluid in my suitcase along with a 12" Powerbook used to back up the day's 'catch' each evening. Next time I'll leave the 90/3.5 at home and probably take a CV12/5.6 instead. (I carry an R8+DMR+28-90 zoom in a TLZ 2 as fall-back and find this to be better for the long stuff) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericperlberg Posted July 9, 2007 Share #30 Posted July 9, 2007 I'm a bit confused by most of these bag choices because there seems to be some info missing. Am I the only person who has to carry a warm shirt/fleece vest or jacket? Does nobody else have to carry (lightweight, highly compressible) rain gear? Does nobody carry a snack or a small bottle of water? Where are you putting this stuff? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanhulsenbeek Posted July 9, 2007 Share #31 Posted July 9, 2007 I'm a bit confused by most of these bag choices because there seems to be some info missing. Am I the only person who has to carry a warm shirt/fleece vest or jacket? Does nobody else have to carry (lightweight, highly compressible) rain gear? Does nobody carry a snack or a small bottle of water? Where are you putting this stuff? Good point. That's why, when I am trekking, I put everything in my super Osprey 35 Liter daypack, and it has the best waistbelt in the world. Plus a big sleeve to put in a Camelback 2 liter watercarrier. Plus jacket and snack. No problem. First take care of your life's necessities, then your camera. Oh, forgot: camera goes in a waistbelt-Ortlieb water-and-dust-proof camerabag. Only way to keep the CCD (reasonably) dustfree. So lenses etc: in the Osprey. Domke wraps give good protection. On the street everything in a brilliant red North Face messenger bag. Which shouts; don't steel me: everyone will see :-) Look at: Corrour Groupblog 2007: He who laughs last.....laughs best! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_j Posted July 10, 2007 Share #32 Posted July 10, 2007 Hi- I too am a Domke fan. I have an 803 and the larger 802 The smaller was great for 2 M-6's and 4 lenses as well as a day's supply of film. They are well made, reasonable priced and less baulky then say the Billingham series. I did check out the Crumplers at their SOHO store last week. Interesting and pretty but I think I still get the nod to Domke. Best, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_Flesher Posted August 3, 2007 Share #33 Posted August 3, 2007 After having tried several bags, i've decided that i like this one best. It's the Domke F-803. It does not look too much like a camera bag and has that special 'I hardly know it's there' Domke feeling to it. It carries my M8, six lenses and stuff like the magnifier and spare batteries. I can also put my wallet and my car stereo front in there. Bags are very personal. You should really try different bags to find out what suits you best. Here's a another bag thread: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m8-forum/7657-lets-talk-bags-m8.html Hans: Just have to say, stuffing that 4-lens insert from a Domke F series into the 803 is brilliant! I did that with my J803 and would say it makes it about the ideal M bag for me... I've got my M8, 5 lenses, filter wallet, all the spares and still have room in the front or back sleeve for a small laptop! If I had to, I could do a simple re-arrange and get another body with lens attached in it to boot. Sweet! Here is a shot of how I arranged mine. I have both a 4-lens insert and a 2-lens insert for the F-series bags stuffed in mine. On the 4-lens nsert, I cut the stitching on one flap to allow it to swing out of the way, thus configuring that insert as convertable to a 3 pocket or 4 pocket design. As it sits, the camera is in the larger slot created by folding the flap out of the way. With Domke inserts, you can slide the foam panels out through the bottom. In the arrangement shown, since there is enough padding in the bag, I have removed all 4 sides of foam from the 2-lens insert and removed the front and rear panels from the 4-lens insert. This of course makes more room in the bag for the gear. Obviously the individual divider sleeves in the inserts keep their foam to pad them against the neighboring lens. 1 = 8-pocket filter wallet; 2 = 75 Lux; 3 = 21 Elmarit; 4 = M8 with 28 attached; 5 = 35 Lux; 6 = 50 Lux with lens cloth for wiping finder and screen off on top of it; 7 = the insert flap folded out of the way; 8 = the extra sleeve pocket in the J803 that isn't on the regular 803. 2x spare batteries, 4 SD card case, finder, spare caps, lens cloth (separate from the camera cloth to keep grease off the lenses!) pen, etc are stored in the front and top pockets. And FTR, I don't usually carry all of this gear at the same time unless staying near the car, but wanted to show how versatile this set up is. Kudos, Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afineman Posted August 4, 2007 Share #34 Posted August 4, 2007 This bag is great for Leica's http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/153232-REG/Lowepro_1955310_Film_Organizer_AW.html It has 2 padded inserts inside (to make 3 sections) as well as a built in rain cover. It can hold one body and 4 or 5 lenses depending on the lenses and how they are put in the bag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted August 4, 2007 Share #35 Posted August 4, 2007 There have been a couple of mentions of Leica brand eveready cases here, all uncomplimentary. Which one are you talking about? Leica do offer a traditional leather case, but the practical choice is the Neoprene case. If you carry the camera with one lens, this is the one (specify short front unless you are into Tri-Elmars). It gives the camera reasonable protection against the elements – not a monsoon, mind you – and scuffs and bangs, comes completely off the camera when you want to shoot, but hangs on to the strap. I did carry M2 and M4 cameras 'naked', but the backside of the M8 is too sensitive for that, I think. For two lenses, I use a 'zoom case' of the vaguely triangular sort. Mine, an old Rowi Globetrotter that I have carried on backpacking tours in the Scandinavian Arctic, has an internal divider that creates an optional lower compartment. I can carry even a 90mm Summicron in it, horizontally. I put the bag on before donning the backpack, strap over one shoulder and using the backpack's chest strap to secure it against swinging. (There is also an optional hip strap, but that is more for climbing duty.) I think weather resistance is important, which is why I won't use Domke bags. And I don't think they are dust resistant enough for arid climates either. The old man from Up North Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_Flesher Posted August 4, 2007 Share #36 Posted August 4, 2007 I think weather resistance is important, which is why I won't use Domke bags. And I don't think they are dust resistant enough for arid climates either. Well, different strokes FWIW, the bag I show above is made of ballistic nylon and sheds water like a duck. (And back when I used them, their canvas bags did the same.) I have had my domkes (I currently own 4 different versions) all over the world, in rain, snow, fog; at the beach, in the desert, on boats, on islands, in ghettos and palaces; at elevations from below sea level to over 4000 meters elevation and they have NEVER failed to adequately protect my gear for me. Yet they are among the most comfortable bags to shoulder and move around with. You know that the minute you sling a fully loaded one over your shoulder. Cheers, Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielt Posted August 4, 2007 Share #37 Posted August 4, 2007 I am using A&A Acam 7100 as my traveling bag. One M8 + TriElmar 28-35-50 an a second body with Elmarit 90/2.8 Epson P2000, batteries and SD cards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted August 4, 2007 Share #38 Posted August 4, 2007 My own experience of canvas Domke bags was that they soaked up water like blotting paper. Maybe our water is wetter ... I simply didn't know that they had switched materials becaus Domkes are not very visible hereabouts. Besides, I am a Billingham man. The old man from the Age of Hard Knocks and Cases Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nryn Posted August 4, 2007 Share #39 Posted August 4, 2007 I've got a review of the bag system I use when traveling. Just got back from a 2-week work trip to Germany (again) and I'm always very happy with this system, which is low on bulk and allows me the best of both worlds when traveling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_Flesher Posted August 4, 2007 Share #40 Posted August 4, 2007 My own experience of canvas Domke bags was that they soaked up water like blotting paper. Maybe our water is wetter ... I simply didn't know that they had switched materials becaus Domkes are not very visible hereabouts. Besides, I am a Billingham man. The old man from the Age of Hard Knocks and Cases The surface of the Domke canvas bags soaked up a little bit of water, but I never had it leak through to the inside. Of course this is a non-issue with the ballistic bags. The only real downside of the Domke canvas bags I ever noted was a really old bag. With that one, the canvas was so worn inside, it "fuzzed off" and the result was some canvas dust on my gear. That was one of the first tan f2's ever produced about 20 years later. Billinhams are very nicely made, but also heavy and quite stiff. By contrast, the Domne conforms to your body, hugging it, and making hte carrying experience far superior. Because it hugs so well, the Domke does not swing to and fro when hanging off your side as you walk; my experience is the Billingham swings and bounces into you quite a bit. they are pretty to look at though Cheers, Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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