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Is an original X1 still worth buying?


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Congrats, it's still a good camera even if not so new in  the digital era :-) the battery clip of mine broke (my mistake, I dropped the camera!) just a few days before traveling to NY ... no time to have it fixed by Leica but the camera worked without problems with a little bit of sponge and a rubber band to be sure...

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X1 is an acquisition that I heartily recommend. It takes a really fantastic picture and here is how I use it for great results each time.

 

I take the camera off of automatic aperture exposure and set it for f5.6 or f8. I let the shutter speed be determined automatically. 

 

The reason for the above shooting method is that the auto focus is a little slow and it tends to sometimes focus on something closer than I want. Having a bigger depth of field yields a great result each time.

 

Also I do recommend getting the accessory viewfinder.

 

Acquire your X1 today. 

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My X1 acquired yonks" ago - still pumping out the images..  

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......I take the camera off of automatic aperture exposure and set it for f5.6 or f8. I let the shutter speed be determined automatically. 

 

The reason for the above shooting method is that the auto focus is a little slow and it tends to sometimes focus on something closer than I want. Having a bigger depth of field yields a great result each time......

 

I think sometimes people use 11 point AF as a snapshot mode without tweaking it manually to focus on the subject. It helps to increase the DoF by choosing a smaller aperture, but I have found that using 1 point or spot AF in conjunction with focus lock is very reliable, even in program exposure mode.

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My beloved X1 was my very first Leica. Then after came an M9 and M6. But I still enjoy shooting with it. It a wonderful rendering especially under good light. I strongly recommend the OVF. I found mine second hand for a good price. It is true the battery clip has broken aswell. But my local dealer send the camera to Leica for repair. So, a lot of marvelous shots with this nice little one. A small camera which you can take everywhere.... Enjoy!!.

 

BTW, I had the new X in my hands. Not too much convinced by it. Too bulky.

 

Also don't go for the although really nice leather case. Just a pain each time to take out the camera without loosing the lens cap

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I can tell you that it's worth buying....because I have an X2 and for what its worth used its not worth me selling....Does that make sense?

 

Great camera ....I just wish Leica digital cameras held more value. I'd love to sell it and put the money toward a used or new lens for my 240.

 

Sadly .....Whats it worth...well are you buying of selling ?  :)

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A fun X1 Shot..

 

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In some ways, I prefer the IQ of the X1/X2 to that of any other 35mm FFE camera/lens. I favor the X2 over the X1 mainly because I like using an external EVF: I'm farsighted and need reading glasses for the monitor, which is a PITA.. Even the X Typ 113 has no better IQ (IMO), It's just faster.

 

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I own a X2 since 2012 and I still use it regularly. It is super light, feels nice except for the plastic wheel and little buttons on the back. One weak point in my opinion is the small delay when pressing the shutter. Even when focus and exposure are set, it is quite difficult for me to time my shots perfectly. With the M9, the shutter fires (almost) instantly.

 

 

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I own a X2 since 2012 and I still use it regularly. It is super light, feels nice except for the plastic wheel and little buttons on the back. One weak point in my opinion is the small delay when pressing the shutter. Even when focus and exposure are set, it is quite difficult for me to time my shots perfectly. With the M9, the shutter fires (almost) instantly.

 

 

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Practice Practice.. (I never have any issues)

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Practice Practice.. (I never have any issues)

Do you also notice the delay I'm talking about? Of course, with lots of practice you can learn to compensate, but it's the fact that I'm constantly switching between the X2 and the M9 (wich has almost no delay) that makes it difficult.

 

Can you explain how you deal with this? That could be helpful I think.

 

 

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Do you also notice the delay I'm talking about? Of course, with lots of practice you can learn to compensate, but it's the fact that I'm constantly switching between the X2 and the M9 (wich has almost no delay) that makes it difficult.

 

Can you explain how you deal with this? That could be helpful I think.

 

 

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First Off, when using my X1/XVario/V-Lux 4&40/M-P240:35mm Summicron ASPH..  Before I start taking any images I always spend a few minutes acclimatizing myself with/to the individual camera.. Depending on the Subject my experience tells me to either to "Think ahead" - Pan" - Pre Focus" etc etc.. of course with any camera some shots will simply be lost because the "moment" has gone long before the camera can even be lifted..(that's life)... 

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Heres a couple of exercises, watch a bus come to a stop, then watch another, see if you can focus on the actual point of Stop (front fender) then refocus on the people alighting.. 

Watch a basketball game and Focus on the ball just before it falls into the net..  Bottom line:- Practice - Know your equipment - Experience - Practice - Know your equipment - Experience - Practice - Know your equipment - Experience - Practice ..... B)

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Heres a couple of exercises, watch a bus come to a stop, then watch another, see if you can focus on the actual point of Stop (front fender) then refocus on the people alighting.. 

Watch a basketball game and Focus on the ball just before it falls into the net..  Bottom line:- Practice - Know your equipment - Experience - Practice - Know your equipment - Experience - Practice - Know your equipment - Experience - Practice ..... B)

 

Well said.....

Can I add anticipate the action

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Heres a couple of exercises, watch a bus come to a stop, then watch another, see if you can focus on the actual point of Stop (front fender) then refocus on the people alighting..

Watch a basketball game and Focus on the ball just before it falls into the net.. Bottom line:- Practice - Know your equipment - Experience - Practice - Know your equipment - Experience - Practice - Know your equipment - Experience - Practice ..... B)

Thank you for these suggestions. Although I already do exercises of this kind sometimes, maybe I should try to do more of them, like going out for a whole day with only the X2 purely for technical exercise :-)

 

The hardest part for me are nailing expressions of people. With the 36mm equivalent focal length, a lot of times I have 2 or 3 people in the frame, waiting for that perfect moment when they are at the same time all visible and looking in the right direction, a good expression on all of the faces, and maybe interesting gestures. It is very hard to anticipate a moment like this because the people are all moving independently. With the M9, when I press the shutter at the exact moment, I often nail the shot. With the X2, I am often a split second too late :-(

 

But this is the only thing about it that I don't really like (and would indeed probably get better with more practice).

 

I like the X1/X2 form factor (and look) better than the newer X. It is so compact. On the image quality side: the X2 (and probably the X1 too) has more accurate color than my M9, high ISO performance of the sensor is a lot better (I compensate by using faster lenses on the M9 at the cost of depth of field). The files are a little less sharp because of a weak AA filter but the 24 Elmarit Asph is a superb lens. At f/2.8 it is a bit less sharp (but still sharp enough) than stopped down, but at f4 and certainly at f5.6 this lens is bitingly sharp (even with the AA filter), with great transparency and microcontrast. Dynamic range is still exemplary for an APS-C sensor.

 

 

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It takes great photos, no doubt about it. And now they are so cheap, especially compared to the new price. It's one big drawback has been its achilles heel from the start  - very slow auto focus. If you know this in advance, and it's not an issue for the kind of photos you want to take, then go for it!

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Slow autofocus may not necessarily be a problem. Use the X1 in manual focus and exposure: stop it down a bit, and zone focus. The idea of manual being faster than auto may seem ludicrous, but it works in situations where exposure and focus do not change significantly from one shot to another.

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