the warrior Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share #21 Â Posted April 25, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Four diaphragm blades do not like nothing, absolutely nothing michaelwj. Â Pretty picture ernstk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Hi the warrior, Take a look here Nobody talks about super-Angulon 21mm f4, why ?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Ernstk Posted April 25, 2016 Share #22 Â Posted April 25, 2016 Four diaphragm blades do not like nothing, absolutely nothing michaelwj. Â Pretty picture ernstk. Thank you. First day with my M-P. Â Ernst Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted April 25, 2016 Share #23 Â Posted April 25, 2016 Using scratched filters on purpose? Wanting to use the 21 f4 simply because it is the underdog? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the warrior Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share #24 Â Posted April 25, 2016 Yes, I use UV filters scratched on purpose, I look less contrast and some flashes in white, smoother images.Filters should be very little scratched with sandpaper grain No. 2000Seeking to test the 21 f4 Super-Angulon, I hope to find the sharpness I seek, only that it seems to me enough.I hope to have one soon to try and decide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the warrior Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share #25  Posted April 25, 2016 An important issue to debate is to be a good photographer is able to get performance from a bad lens, a photographer who understands light and can "talk to her", a photographer who has the ability to "see" what others are not able to see even look in the same direction.  We intend to have the best lenses simply to alleviate our cerancias as fitógrafos, or is it just for our attacks G.A.S. ..... ??.  I have had great G.A.S. attacks in the past until I bought the Noctilux f0,95 after having it sold un anno I have no regrets for it, now I understood that it is not the best lens that makes the best pictures.  Maybe I'm wrong, finally I'm just a poor man crazy.  I think these are the most important issues of photography.I'm wrong, that you believe ..... ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelwj Posted April 25, 2016 Share #26 Â Posted April 25, 2016 Four diaphragm blades do not like nothing, absolutely nothing michaelwj. Â Pretty picture ernstk. I'll let everyone who's taken a good picture with one know that it's actually not so good then? :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the warrior Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share #27 Â Posted April 26, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) No doubt that good images with this but I do not like the diaphragm 4 blades, just as I do not like TT vehicle aluminum wheels, it's just something personal, I consider it unnecessary to build a good goal if we talk about optics and only enter 4 sheets, why ??. Â Something strange appears in the background of the images with only 4 sheets, it is my opinion. Â I prefer diaphragm blades 15 or more, but I can live with diaphragm 9. Â Possibly more attractive diaphragm blades only three ....... Â Why I like the lens of solid brass and not black? Â These are difficult questions to answer and other people to understand, I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelwj Posted April 26, 2016 Share #28 Â Posted April 26, 2016 No doubt that good images with this but I do not like the diaphragm 4 blades, just as I do not like TT vehicle aluminum wheels, it's just something personal, I consider it unnecessary to build a good goal if we talk about optics and only enter 4 sheets, why ??. Â Something strange appears in the background of the images with only 4 sheets, it is my opinion. Â I prefer diaphragm blades 15 or more, but I can live with diaphragm 9. Â Possibly more attractive diaphragm blades only three ....... Â Why I like the lens of solid brass and not black? Â These are difficult questions to answer and other people to understand, I think. Fair enough, we all have our own particular factors that come in to play! I've no experience with the f4, but can live with 4 aperture blades, the depth of focus is so huge anyway, and I prefer other aspects of the 3.4 which makes it my 1st choice. Â Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the warrior Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share #29 Â Posted April 26, 2016 Right now I have in my hand a black f3,4 who have given me to try, I have some photos and this afternoon going back for more, then I will decide. Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the warrior Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share #30 Â Posted April 26, 2016 First Picture, Shot fired by the M Monochrom, 40cm estimate, in F3.4 Â Â Crop 100% Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelwj Posted April 27, 2016 Share #31 Â Posted April 27, 2016 When you get a chance to try the f4, I would like to hear your thoughts about the two. Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the warrior Posted April 27, 2016 Author Share #32 Â Posted April 27, 2016 This being somewhat difficult to find a f4 for testing, but if I get it I know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell Posted April 27, 2016 Share #33 Â Posted April 27, 2016 I have an f4. Â On B&W film it made some wonderful images. Â I used it on a M3 with the external finder. Since moving to digital, I haven't really used it as the digital Ms also have the built in meter which I've grown accustomed to. Â Also the odd colours on the edges. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the warrior Posted April 28, 2016 Author Share #34 Â Posted April 28, 2016 Please Russell, you can put here some photographs, it helps to see how the f4 works, thank you very much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daymadi-T Posted April 28, 2016 Share #35 Â Posted April 28, 2016 21mm/3.4 Super-Angulon /M9Â Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell Posted April 28, 2016 Share #36 Â Posted April 28, 2016 This is an old photo on the M8 with the SA f/4. Â I don't remember if I had filter on the lens or not. Â I suspect not. https://www.flickr.com/photos/ebrooks/26698072485/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the warrior Posted April 28, 2016 Author Share #37  Posted April 28, 2016 Great pictures friends madi-Day t and rusell, thank you very much.Today I scanned some with the MP, M3 and F3.4 Super-Angulon.These are not photographs seeking some artistic result, they are just testing this lens to see what is able to offer.  You can see the effects of light as it enters the angles, it's a little contrast target, I like, is just sharpness, I Tamien like.I'll hang several types soccer photos and pictures of difertentes to assess the result in film.The openings are varied, from f3,4 to f4.8. TriX 400 - Ilfiosol3 - V750 pro Scan.  From 0.4 meters to 3 meters.      Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_galilee Posted August 10, 2017 Share #38 Â Posted August 10, 2017 I'm using 21mm more and more for street photography. It changes the way that you have to work, requiring you to be much closer and more engaged.This was taken yesterday in Oxford. M-P CV 21/4M-P 214 bow tie dude.jpg I like the composition. You have understand the mean of 21mm and with SA will do it special pictures/moments. Well done! Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_galilee Posted August 10, 2017 Share #39 Â Posted August 10, 2017 I'm using 21mm more and more for street photography. It changes the way that you have to work, requiring you to be much closer and more engaged.This was taken yesterday in Oxford. M-P CV 21/4M-P 214 bow tie dude.jpg I like the composition. You do understand the mean of 21mm and will do it special pictures/moments. Well done! Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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