rjsphd Posted March 10, 2016 Share #1 Posted March 10, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just got a M 240 and am wondering about the experience of left-eyed shooters with the Thumbs Up. The TU sounds very helpful for stability, but wondering if it pokes or cramps you if you are left-eye dominant, like me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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muri Posted March 10, 2016 Share #2 Posted March 10, 2016 Works just fine. Wouldn't want to be without one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregm61 Posted March 10, 2016 Share #3 Posted March 10, 2016 When I picked up a mint used M9, lo and behold, a Thumb's Up was included in the box. I tried it for a while with both the M9 and over a couple of days with a new M262. It's an OK product. The particular one I have does not include an accessory shoe. I use the 21 ASPH quite a bit and swapping between the thumbs up and the 21mm finder is a PITA and the placement of the back command dial on the new M262, similar to the one on the M240, with the added ridge compared to the M9 made the Thumb's up less "needed", at least for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hepcat Posted March 10, 2016 Share #4 Posted March 10, 2016 I'm a left-eyed shooter and a slow learner. I also wear glasses. The thumbs-up was problematic for me. It was a problem the first time I used one, so I sold it. I had another come with another camera and tried it again thinking maybe I dismissed it too quickly and it was still problematic. I've always shot film Leicas with the wind-on lever, so I thought that the thumbs up ought not to be so much different, but it is in quite a different place, apparently. I've abandoned the thumbs-up altogether as they just don't work for me and my specific set of circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrödinger's cat Posted March 10, 2016 Share #5 Posted March 10, 2016 This product strikes me as rather well designed and produced, is very popular, and certainly does everything it claims. I personally have found it to be highly useful. However, it does have a huge drawback, at least for some of us who are laterally dimensionally challenged When my camera hangs around my neck and down the front, the Thumbs Up sticks into my stomach in a very uncomfortable manner. For that reason I no longer use one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjsphd Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share #6 Posted March 10, 2016 Wow. I thought I would hear a chorus of "it is a must have". Sounds like its not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoothlander Posted March 10, 2016 Share #7 Posted March 10, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am 'left" eyed and haven't tried it nor do I intend to try one. I feel like my grip on the camera is just find. I shoot with only a 50mm lense so maybe if I were using a larger heavier lense I'd feel differently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted March 10, 2016 Share #8 Posted March 10, 2016 I am left eyed and used on on the M (Typ 240) as well as the M9 with no problem. For me it improves the security and steadiness of my hold in portrait orientation especially. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted March 10, 2016 Share #9 Posted March 10, 2016 Wow. I thought I would hear a chorus of "it is a must have". Sounds like its not. It's certainly not a "must have". Many people do like them but many don't. I much prefer M cameras without them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ricoh Posted March 12, 2016 Share #10 Posted March 12, 2016 I've been thinking of one as well. The regular version, the EP-10S, is available in the uk, but the more recent CSEP-10S with the hot shoe extension is not, unfortunately. Before I 'flash the cash', I would like confirmation that the weather sealing is maintained with the TU in place. The supplied hot shoe protector does and I could easily imagine a warranty issue if the camera stopped working due to water ingress. Also as an engineer, I can imagine a bending force being applied trying to shear the hot shoe from the camera. And finally whether the neoprene strip attached to the latest TU prevents damage to the top brass plate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrödinger's cat Posted March 12, 2016 Share #11 Posted March 12, 2016 I've been thinking of one as well. The regular version, the EP-10S, is available in the uk, but the more recent CSEP-10S with the hot shoe extension is not, unfortunately. Before I 'flash the cash', I would like confirmation that the weather sealing is maintained with the TU in place. The supplied hot shoe protector does and I could easily imagine a warranty issue if the camera stopped working due to water ingress. Also as an engineer, I can imagine a bending force being applied trying to shear the hot shoe from the camera. And finally whether the neoprene strip attached to the latest TU prevents damage to the top brass plate. If you follow the used Leicas for sale on eBay, you will notice a few which have rub marks on the finish where the accessory touched the rear of the top plate. On realizing this I applied a piece of tape to the rear of the top plate to prevent rubbing altogether. A rubber piece on the accessory would certainly provide a softer surface doing the rubbing, but but t's still rubbing and the paint is not really a durable finish. Never having used the accessory without the tape I couldn't say from experience if the rubber version still causes finish wear, but my advice would be to use the tape on the body. As I have never read a post regarding the hot shoe being damaged I suspect that the likelihood of damage in that regard is small. You might want to consider one of the versions that attaches with auto trim tape, which would neatly sidestep all three of the issues. Insofar as I loath being in the rain, I have no information on the issue of weather resistance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted March 13, 2016 Share #12 Posted March 13, 2016 I've been thinking of one as well. The regular version, the EP-10S, is available in the uk, but the more recent CSEP-10S with the hot shoe extension is not, unfortunately. Before I 'flash the cash', I would like confirmation that the weather sealing is maintained with the TU in place. The supplied hot shoe protector does and I could easily imagine a warranty issue if the camera stopped working due to water ingress. Also as an engineer, I can imagine a bending force being applied trying to shear the hot shoe from the camera. And finally whether the neoprene strip attached to the latest TU prevents damage to the top brass plate. Personally. I think you're worrying too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jto555 Posted March 13, 2016 Share #13 Posted March 13, 2016 I dont use the Thumbs Up because it stops me using the hotshoe but I do use the Thumbie. This is held on to the camera by very strong tape and so leaves the hotshoe free. I have them on two bodies and they work perfectly. Another good thing about them is one of this sites members can supply them to Forum members at a discount! PM sent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
epand56 Posted March 17, 2016 Share #14 Posted March 17, 2016 I do use the Thumbie. +1 On my M I use the small Thumbie that sticks to the camera body and see no difference with the hotshoe one I have on the M8 except that the hotshoe is free for the EVF and the flash when needed. Since I've sticked it on the camera I had no problems at all. It is discrete and works perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsmphoto Posted March 17, 2016 Share #15 Posted March 17, 2016 For this, the nose print issue, and just because I wanted to see if I could do it, I trained myself to be right eyed as well. I found it wasn't very hard....for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lykafile Posted March 18, 2016 Share #16 Posted March 18, 2016 left-eyed too. use thumbie on M9 without problem.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted March 18, 2016 Share #17 Posted March 18, 2016 Used it for about 6 months. Now it's in a drawer somewhere... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdk Posted March 19, 2016 Share #18 Posted March 19, 2016 I shoot left eyed too. No thumb things for me, but I have Really Right Stuff grip/L-bracket for both my M9-P and M-P cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCO34 Posted March 27, 2016 Share #19 Posted March 27, 2016 I have a used M240 that did not come with a thumbie but had marks where one had been attached. No big deal to me as cameras are tools not safe queens. Anyway bought a thumbie and I shoot left eyed. No issues at eye level but it does bump my donut filled belly! Time for a diet as the thumbie is worth using! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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