didier Posted April 25, 2023 Share #16821 Posted April 25, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257654-black-and-white-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4758489'>More sharing options...
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didier Posted April 25, 2023 Share #16822 Posted April 25, 2023 Riquewihr, Alsace, France Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10M with apo 35 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10M with apo 35 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257654-black-and-white-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4758490'>More sharing options...
didier Posted April 25, 2023 Share #16823 Posted April 25, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 11 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257654-black-and-white-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4758493'>More sharing options...
stephan54 Posted April 25, 2023 Share #16824 Posted April 25, 2023 vor 1 Stunde schrieb didier: Freiburg, shot yesterday, almost from the same place than your photo @stephan54 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! We were there yesterday too and drove back home today. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted April 26, 2023 Share #16825 Posted April 26, 2023 13 hours ago, John Robinson said: Does that work for DNGs or just JPG? Just did a quick test on my M10. You can select DNG or jpeg or both for Monochrome. The LCD display on camera is B&W. When downloaded, the jpeg is always B&W, whereas the DNG displays as colour. By then selecting 'Black & White' (in C1) the DNG image shows B&W and a wide range of controls (filters?) are available for extensive PP, if desired. My understanding of a true Monochome is that extensive PP is necessary anyway as the OOC files are very flat. IMO this is a good/desirable effect anyway for optimal image quality. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
didier Posted April 26, 2023 Share #16826 Posted April 26, 2023 Dambach la Ville, Alsace, France Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10M with apo 35 8 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10M with apo 35 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257654-black-and-white-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4758750'>More sharing options...
didier Posted April 26, 2023 Share #16827 Posted April 26, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 8 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257654-black-and-white-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4758752'>More sharing options...
John Robinson Posted April 26, 2023 Share #16828 Posted April 26, 2023 8 hours ago, erl said: The LCD display on camera is B&W. When downloaded, the jpeg is always B&W, whereas the DNG displays as colour. By then selecting 'Black & White' (in C1) the DNG image shows B&W and a wide range of controls (filters?) are available for extensive PP, if desired. My understanding of a true Monochome is that extensive PP is necessary anyway as the OOC files are very flat. IMO this is a good/desirable effect anyway for optimal image quality. I agree that the "Enable Black and White" option in C1 is excellent and I have used this extensively. The controls that it includes allow for adjustments that come close to the equivalent of putting filters onto the front of the lens on monochrome cameras (film or digital). I note that elsewhere on the site there was a discussion about the differences between shooting an M10-r (I think) and the new M11-D that concluded there was not a lot of difference in the end-result (I think it was Jono Slack using Lightroom not C1). In C1 it is possible to apply a custom style at the import stage so that images come through as monochrome immediately. Very useful. Maybe Lightroom has something similar? In terms of image quality, I find that I still prefer the "look" of mono film (XP2 still widely available, even in bulk-rolls) compared with digital and comparing files from an M9 (doesn't seem to have the shoot-in-mono options of later models) with M9M, the latter has a considerable edge, especially at higher ISOs. My original comment was about something different though. Is there a subjective difference when taking a photograph with a monochrome camera (film or digital), knowing that the only result can be monochrome, compared with shooting a colour camera (film or digital) with the intention to convert to monochrome at PP stage? It's about "seeing" a scene in monochrome and evaluating shades of grey rather than colour at the point of taking the image. This can be quite a challenge. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted April 26, 2023 Share #16829 Posted April 26, 2023 John, I agree with your point about shooting when B&W is the only possibility. eg. Monochrome or Film camera with B&W film. I spent the bulk (I think) of my life shooting heaps of B&W film and 'thinking' in B&W so it is rather automatic for me. Most of my cameras are still film rather than digital and I most commonly load them with B&W. I agree that XP2 does have a special look, but the higher cost of the colour chemistry keeps me from standardizing on it. I have learned to 'love' grain and so shoot a lot of conventional B&W film. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted April 26, 2023 Share #16830 Posted April 26, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10M sepia mode jpg, 50mm Noctilux f1.2 Re-Issue 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10M sepia mode jpg, 50mm Noctilux f1.2 Re-Issue ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257654-black-and-white-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4758949'>More sharing options...
Lelmer Posted April 26, 2023 Share #16831 Posted April 26, 2023 Another rainy day... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M + Summilux 35mm FLE 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M + Summilux 35mm FLE ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257654-black-and-white-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4759000'>More sharing options...
Leographie Posted April 26, 2023 Share #16832 Posted April 26, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 13 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257654-black-and-white-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4759030'>More sharing options...
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mikozia Posted April 26, 2023 Share #16834 Posted April 26, 2023 2 x 2 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! X Vario. 14 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! X Vario. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257654-black-and-white-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4759088'>More sharing options...
frame-it Posted April 27, 2023 Share #16835 Posted April 27, 2023 EOS-RP + Elcan 90mm Summicron LTM [1958] Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257654-black-and-white-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4759254'>More sharing options...
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andybarton Posted April 27, 2023 Share #16837 Posted April 27, 2023 19 hours ago, John Robinson said: In C1 it is possible to apply a custom style at the import stage so that images come through as monochrome immediately. Very useful. Maybe Lightroom has something similar? It does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max5K Posted April 27, 2023 Share #16838 Posted April 27, 2023 City gate (Q2) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 10 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257654-black-and-white-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4759404'>More sharing options...
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