A miller Posted February 8, 2016 Share #21 Posted February 8, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I was not saying anything about digital cameras. You might want to use daylight color neg firm that has an anti-halation layer if you don't like the red halos. But they dont render as nicely... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 Hi A miller, Take a look here CineStill 120!!. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
AlanG Posted February 8, 2016 Share #22 Posted February 8, 2016 But they dont render as nicely... That's great if it gives you the look you like. By scanning into a digital file so there are a lot more ways the look can be altered than if the negative was being printed directly. I can see it being used in 35mm. My only real question is whether many 120 film users would want to use this film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted February 8, 2016 Share #23 Posted February 8, 2016 My only real question is whether many 120 film users would want to use this film. well, but the lack of success on the kickstarter circuit, I think there may be some validity to this question. It is a little besides me, but it is what it is. If I wanted to take my Hasselblad or Linhof for a shoot in, say, the NY Public Library or Grand Central Station, or perhaps inside the NYC subway system through long exposures capturing the motion of the trains, my thought it that the Cinestill would be my best bet. The 35mm size is ok but the expanded tonal range of the larger format (particularly in a 6x9 sheet) has got to be really nice and thus the scenes noted above would be good performers. I've asked for some test rolls so that I can prove out this thesis, and am hoping they will capitulate... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indergaard Posted February 8, 2016 Share #24 Posted February 8, 2016 I would love to try CineStill 800T (and the ISO 50 one also). But at $13 USD / €12 a roll plus development I'm not sure if it's worth it. Is there somewhere to purchase this film cheaper than $9.99 which is the lowest I've found, excluding shipping, so far? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted February 8, 2016 Share #25 Posted February 8, 2016 I would love to try CineStill 800T (and the ISO 50 one also). But at $13 USD / €12 a roll plus development I'm not sure if it's worth it. Is there somewhere to purchase this film cheaper than $9.99 which is the lowest I've found, excluding shipping, so far? Not that i have foundBut is the same price point as portra 800 and many of the high end color fuji film stocks in the US, so i am really not offended. Given the occasional use, it is worth the couple extra bucks to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indergaard Posted February 8, 2016 Share #26 Posted February 8, 2016 Not that i have found But is the same price point as portra 800 and many of the high end color fuji film stocks in the US, so i am really not offended. Given the occasional use, it is worth the couple extra bucks to me A couple would be OK yes. But including shipping and taxes the price goes up to about $15-16 USD a roll. I can get Portra 400 for about $7 a roll including shipping and taxes. I'll probably pick up some rolls of it the next time I'm in the US. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted February 8, 2016 Share #27 Posted February 8, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) A couple would be OK yes. But including shipping and taxes the price goes up to about $15-16 USD a roll. I can get Portra 400 for about $7 a roll including shipping and taxes. I'll probably pick up some rolls of it the next time I'm in the US.Wow, yes, that is indeed a significant increment, and i dont blame you. I am headed to London at some point within the next months and would be happy to bring some along if you know anyone in Canary Wharf with whom i can leave it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Lowe Posted February 29, 2016 Share #28 Posted February 29, 2016 That's great if it gives you the look you like. By scanning into a digital file so there are a lot more ways the look can be altered than if the negative was being printed directly. I can see it being used in 35mm. My only real question is whether many 120 film users would want to use this film. They've raised over $160,000 so the answer is yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share #29 Posted February 29, 2016 In fact so over subscribed they are going further to do 4x5 as well! If AlanG can continue raining on the parade there is no reason to think that with his reverse psychic energy film sales can't overtake digital in the near future. Come on Alan, say it's impossible and we can start ordering now! ;-) Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share #30 Posted February 29, 2016 I would love to try CineStill 800T (and the ISO 50 one also). But at $13 USD / €12 a roll plus development I'm not sure if it's worth it. Process it yourself, it's as easy as developing a roll of B&W. It is expensive per roll, but it is a special film in that 800 and 50 ISO aren't nowadays in the normal range, and not too many people will be blasting away with it but instead using it for those niche situations. I use the 50 with the camera on a tripod for example, and with the quality of the film and Leica lenses treat each frame as if it was made with a larger format camera and shoot in a slower considered way. So the 36 frames can go a long way and the price of the film starts to look very reasonable. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted February 29, 2016 Share #31 Posted February 29, 2016 In fact so over subscribed they are going further to do 4x5 as well! If AlanG can continue raining on the parade there is no reason to think that with his reverse psychic energy film sales can't overtake digital in the near future. Come on Alan, say it's impossible and we can start ordering now! ;-) Steve You are funny. I never said anything against this project. It is certainly reasonable for a small company to figure out a way to target a niche market and hopefully make a reasonable profit. But I can't see how anybody would read more into it than that since the sales numbers are so tiny. I see that 1864 backers purchased an average of about $87 worth of film. Note that this includes 35mm along with 120 and 4x5.... maybe $15,000 worth or so. And that is enough to make the project viable. If the company behind this can sustain sales and hopefully grow them, they may make a enough profit to justify staying in business. The 4x5 film is $4-$4.80 per sheet depending on whether you order 25 sheets for $100 or 25 sheets for $120. (Maybe I misread something but it seems that 9 backers paid more than they had to for the 4x5 film.) I don't know if the price in the future will be lower or higher than that, but it seems high to me. Maybe once everyone shoots this and shows how great it is sales will sky rocket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted March 1, 2016 Share #32 Posted March 1, 2016 Don't worry Alan - it's not all good news for film-lovers. Here - this should cheer you up a bit: http://tokyocamerastyle.com/post/140237690721/sad-news-fujifilm-has-announced-the-end-of Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted March 1, 2016 Share #33 Posted March 1, 2016 Don't worry Alan - it's not all good news for film-lovers. Here - this should cheer you up a bit: http://tokyocamerastyle.com/post/140237690721/sad-news-fujifilm-has-announced-the-end-of What does this have to do with me? If more people used this film they would not be discontinuing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted March 1, 2016 Share #34 Posted March 1, 2016 What does this have to do with me? If more people used this film they would not be discontinuing it. Well I was just trying to put a smile back on your face... I'm guessing you don't want to see the new CIPA report showing the continued abject collapse of the digital camera market in 2015 anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted March 1, 2016 Share #35 Posted March 1, 2016 Why do you think I care what happens in the camera business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted March 1, 2016 Share #36 Posted March 1, 2016 Perhaps the strong implication is that you are a troll on the film threads and only have an interest in pouring cold water on people's love for film? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted March 2, 2016 Share #37 Posted March 2, 2016 I only care about the photos. Not how you get them. Loving film or digital technology seems to be getting off the track of the entire purpose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ash Posted March 2, 2016 Share #38 Posted March 2, 2016 I only care about the photos. Not how you get them. Loving film or digital technology seems to be getting off the track of the entire purpose. It might be for you. In my point of view it is a sad statement. It is like reducing sex to the orgasm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted March 2, 2016 Share #39 Posted March 2, 2016 It might be for you. In my point of view it is a sad statement. It is like reducing sex to the orgasm. How utterly ridiculous. The goal is to transcend the technology so that one can dedicate ones talents to the process of creativity. If your enjoyment comes mostly from playing around with cameras, developers, software or whatever, you are not a master of the process to the point where its use is transparent and zen like. To put it in your sexual terms of very strained analogies, sex is not about testing and comparing condoms and "toys." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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